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'Grey's Anatomy' crossing into 'ER' territory?

Posted: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:50 AM by Gael Fashingbauer Cooper
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Stop reading here if you haven't yet watched Thursday night's "Grey's Anatomy" episode, the second of a three-episode arc about a ferry accident. (Need a summary? Our chart is here.)

If you've seen it, you know that Meredith spends a lot of the episode floating around in the chilly waters of Puget Sound (Elliott Bay, to be specific). Of course she's saved by no one other than her boyfriend, hunky Dr. McDreamy, and in that scene she's about as ghostly white as can be.

By the end of the show, she's back at Seattle Grace, flatlining despite the best efforts of her co-workers. She jerks awake only to see Denny Duquette and Dylan, the blown-up bomb squad guy. Like the little kid in "The Sixth Sense," she's seeing dead people, and they assure her she's dead, too.

Experienced TV watchers know there's no way Meredith can be dead, just like there was no way she could be left to drift in the Sound, or no way she could have been found by an anonymous rescue squadder -- she had to be found by her McDreamy, and the title character in a hit show does not die. (What's that they sang in the "Sunset Boulevard" musical? "Nobody dies except the best friend...")

But with that said, what is going on with "Grey's" these days? Does the show want to become "ER," with a Crisis Of The Week every single week, making each hour-long episode into a Big Drama with a ferry on fire, a bomb inside a patient, a toxic mix of meds in the hospital? Because that's exactly what drove me away from "ER," and I can see it happening again here.

 "Grey's" is set in a hospital, sure, and handles its day-in, day-out hospital plots well. But in the bigger picture, the patients are just artful window dressing for a nighttime soap about the loves and losses of a bunch of really attractive doctors.

Here's the analogy I keep coming back to: If you've ever acted, you know that the makeup artists have to just glob a ton of makeup onto your face before you go out on stage. It's much, much more than you would ever wear out on the street, because the camera needs that overkill.

It's as if the scriptwriters on "Grey's" are thinking the same way: We've got to add more, more, more BIG events, bombs, explosions, fires, or we'll lose the audience. The problem is, there are a million places on TV to go for flames and blood, not to mention about a thousand movies in the theaters eager to offer the same thing. Not as many of those other shows offer the intriguing net of relationships "Grey's" has drawn.

Focusing on the personal, rather than the patients, set "Grey's Anatomy" apart from the beginning and helped make it a hit. The show should stick to its strengths and dial back on the danger.

 

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I am more disappointed with all of the commercials on this show!! Is it me?? I hate to have to watch 3 minutes of the show and then 5 minutes of commercials, then 3 minutes of the show... it was driving me crazy, especially last night!! It is my favorite show ever, but if they kill off Meredith, they have killed the show in my opinion.
If any writers, etc from Grey's Anatomy are reading this, please lose Izzy ! She is a dull, irritating character, and that story last season with her cutting the LVAD wires was just ridiculous. I think this is where I stopped liking the show so much. I disagree with the nurse who posted about the medical accuracy in this show. It is average, at times below average. I watch it because of the characters ( minus Izzy ) and their lives. I really like Ellen Pompeo and Sandra Oh.
I agree 100% leave out such unrealistic things as bombs blowing up, airplane crashes, etc.. Once a season you need a cliff hanger, but be more real to life . The audiences wants to relate with the characters, and what goes on in their lives. All of us work and spend more time with our co-wokers in the work place,more than our own families,so we can relate on what can happen. Everyone loves gossip,who is doing what, who hates who, and most of all who is having the big affair! People are nosey, they feed on the need to know basises. The more lust, sex and arguements the more intrigued people get. Look at last year episode with Meredith and Mr. McDreamy, when they finaly gave into each other,and then they appear in front of their friends, and co-workers to find out something drastic had happen. The guilt on their faces, and everyone elses, that was good. What is the old saying? "If it is not broken don't fix it". I say leave well enough alone. The show is great, and keep the story line as is, do not bring in bombs,airplane crashes, and all that movie screen hipe. You will loose what is making the show such a success.
No one said we have to like or dislike ALL of the characters. The writers created a diverse group of people to make things interesting. If Izze acted differently, then she wouldn't be Izze. Same thing goes for George. I like how they all represent themselves and interact with each other. Isn't that what this show is about??? If you hate one particular character - I think that's great! That just means the writers are doing their jobs!!
I love this show. All the quirky people and their relationships. I can relate to the real life situations on how people interact to one another. I think that now you have brought Izzy back to a thinker again maybe we can see her doing well in her clinic and seeing real life situations there. But I don't think this show needs the extreme action you have applied here. Sometimes life isn't full of constant action. I personally like watching shows where someone has to pick themselves up after a tragedy happens. Build on relationships and this show could go far.
Speaking of medical accuracy on this show, in regards to the big drill scene with Izzy, what about the ABC's ? Surely she would have had access to an intubation tray in her emergency bag ? OR a LMA.When the guy went unconscious, all she did was stare at him. Do doctors review this show at all ? What about the fact that surgical interns should have been at the hospital prepping for surgery ? I know, it would be too boring, but I have learned with these shows, you just have to put aside the sloppy medical stuff behind. Scrubs is still the best out there.
MEREDITH CAN'T DIE!!!!! I WORK FOR A DOCTOR AND IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT A PERSON CAN STILL SURVIVE AFTER FALLING INTO FRIGID TEMPS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. IF MEREDITH DIES I WILL TO WITH THE SHOW!!!
I love Grey's because it sucks me into the stories and evokes real, serious emotions from me - it's cathartic for me. Yes, I know it's a show, but we watch TV and movies to escape real life, right?? It's an hour-long break from reality and I love every second of it. (Besides, I can't think of anything better than starting at McDreamy for 60 minutes a week!) I am afraid of the show turning into ER, but honestly, I am consistently impressed and surprised with the direction of the storylines. I think Shonda Rhimes and her crew are brilliant and hope they continue their amazing stories for years to come.
I was watching Grey's and Ghost Whisperer broke-out! I see dead people Stop the drama
I know i'm in a minority on this comment board but i really find this show annoying. feel free to skip my comment now, but let me at least state why because i never have before. The characters have only two sides and they are all extreme. It reminds me of desperate housewives within an OR. its incredibly Cheesy yet still tries to proove its validity. I've seen a handful of Episodes cuz my roommate watches it, and i'm astounded how they even use the same plots as Scrubs and ER. I kid you not the exact same episodes. Too much Melodrama and not enough ACTUAL substance. Yes, i am aware it is a TV show, but it blows my mind it's had such an acceptance. quality seems to have died at some point in time.
Since I have never watched ER, I cannot make a comparison, however I love the show and find myself anxiously awaiting the next. Izzy is a bit preachy but loved the 'rock star' bit. Personally, I am glad the writers chose not remind us of Callie and George's rabbit (or should I say rabid) like sex life. Geesh! Enough already.
Janna H from Denver, please don't confuse the show's name "Grey's Anatomy"(spelled with an "e") with the book written by Henry Gray (spelled with an a") in 1918. A plot line suggesting that Ellis wrote the book is a huge insult to our intellegence.
Meredith cannot die. My 12-year-old knows that! I love all of the characters, and while Izzie is being rather emotional, I think it's completely understandable. She and George are dealing with their losses in completely different, yet both potentially destructive, ways. I like George and Callie together, so I hope there's no "destruction" there. I love Grey's and ER - Thursday is my favorite day of the week - but I do agree that Grey's needs to tone it down a bit.
To reiterate .... this is TV .... it is nothing like ER except both take place at hospitals. Izzy has become more cynical (perhaps because of Denny's death?) George and Callie are really good together, I agree, but kind of rushed the marriage thing, Christina and Burke - they are very well matched. What about Kate - the way she look (and realized) that McDreamy really loves Meredith (the look in her eyes - the realization that their love wasn't anything close - was extremely sad). I think that McSteamy and McDreamy, because of this with Meredith - with patch their friendship up (or so it seemed). Friendships bring people closer, especially when tragedy strikes to those closest to us. Again, it's only TV - it's great eye-candy for all of us and I look forward each week to watching the show - Predictable or not. (aside - ER lost all of its really good characters long ago - that's why, I believe, most people have stopped watching .. as much .. ER). Meredith is having the "near-death" experience. She'll wake up... I like the story line someone mentioned about her having amnesia and patching up with her mother. nice.
A couple of things come to mind about why Meredith didn't fight harder in the water: 1. cold water - it can slow you down pretty quickly. 2. wet clothes and shoes - they are heavy and weighed her down. Regarding if this relates to the bathtub incident - yes. I think Meredith has some freaky premonition thing. Remember last year with the bomb in the body - she had some kind of dream she was going to die? I think the bathtub thing was kind of like that. A foreshadowing of sorts. Something to chew on until next Thursday.
We can only wish that Meredith would die. Her whining self absorbed character has been a thorn in the shows side from the start. It's the supporting cast that has made it worth while. Up until now. I really don't need to see a "Meredith's life is endanger and McDreamy is brooding and worried about her" episode every season. New lame greys.
Thank you Sue!!! I read through everyones comments waiting for someone to mention that...in the episode Meredith totally comes up for air and then goes back under. But uhh...obviously we are in need of a recap what with Ellis' day of lucidness and telling Meredith she was a disappointment. And she did try to drown herself in the bathtub earlier. There are so many different scenarios that can come out of this. Seriously, stop complaining about the show. No Grey's fan wants to read that crap. If you dont like it that much go watch something else on Thursday nights.
In regards to the multiple mentions of Meredith not fighting as she went down, I think that might be explained by the shock from the hypothermia. I think that might make you give up pretty quickly if you were drowning in that cold water. Less believable to me was that with all those casualties, each doctor seemed to only have to deal with one person, and Alex and George never actually treated anybody once they returned to the hospital!
This show's strengths are its very talented ensemble cast, the amazing chemistry, and the fantastic writing and character development. Yes, the docs are all oh-so attractive, but the real draw is how well they all work together. They make it believable. I hope they "dance with the one that brung 'em" and not be tempted to, if you'll pardon the timely pun, go too overboard with weekly outrageously,wild stories! They are so talented that they don't need those to succeed. And, if they kill off Meredith Grey, which would be insane at best, they'd have to rename the show "Anatomy"! That just wouldn't work!
Meredith is having a Near Death Experience and will survive. She will come back with a message to Izzie from Denny that will give Izzie her closure.
I LOVE ALL THE MC COMMENTS VICKI. MEREDITH OF COURSE WON'T DIE BUT SHE IS NO LONGER THE MAIN CHARACTER TO ME ANYMORE. I THINK THE MCCOUPLE ARE GREAT AND SASSY. THE MCREDHEAD IS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS AND TRUTHFULLY CANT SEE WHY MCDREAMY LEFT HER. IT IS A GREAT SHOW AND LOOK FORWARD TO IT EVERY WEEK.
I think people who are criticizing the show aren't necessarily not fans- many, like me, DO like the show and are unhappy with its direction, so they offer what they feel is constructive criticism because they WANT to like the show again. I agree with whoever said the first episode of these three was really good and felt right, and this one just was unreal in a lot of ways and didn't feel right. Who knows... butI hope they improve after this silly will-she-won't-she-die sort of thing since we all know it's not going to happen.
DENNY!!!!!!!!!! Can I just utter a huge "THANK-YOU, Shonda!"? Thanks for allowing us to see Denny again, even if it's through (dead) Meredith's eyes and not my own! Is it Thursday yet?
Ok I am confused. I had to miss last nights episode. So what happend? Why did Meredith fall into the water? Someone pleas fill me in!!
I once said that this show is the post-college version of "Felicity," which is part of why I love it so much! Callie even had a line in the beginning of the season about all the doctors being 17 year olds trapped in 30 year old bodies because they had spent so many years studying and going through med school and whatnot. This is why the characters act so immature, but this is also what makes the show work! If the writers do their job, then it will be the fall-out from this "major dramatic event" that will change the dynamics of the relationships between the characters and keep us watching for the rest of the season and beyond. And I totally agree with earlier comments - it's a TV show, it doesn't have to be "real!" And if we really want to get nit picky, a show like "Grey's Anatomy" is more "real" than most of the reality shows out there....
thanks to all of you viewers that agree that this is tv show and is for entertainment purposes only... it is not an educational show so stop dissecting and enjoy or stop watching- i do not know if Meredith will die- she probably will not but just wait until next week!! that is the beauty of tv- it will be there next week!!!
I agree that Meredith will live, but she'll have some slight amnesia, which will require her and McDreamy to rekindle their entire relationship. Come on, this is too obvious. It's like Friends, Ross and Rachel can't be together the entire time, you have to have that tension, and get them together at the end.
Grey's characters are great. Let's hope that Meredith's drowning helps end her relationship with McDreamy. . .he mates better with his ex-wife. Meredith mated better with the vet. The best are Burke & Christine - recalling one of their first dates as Christine insisted on red meat & butter leaving Burke incredulous!
I soooo love the show and I sit at the end of my seat the whole hour (except when I have had to get the tissue these last episodes). As much as know that there is no way Merideth is dead I am still reeling as to what in the world is going on! And I agree, I want the real Izzy back. From trailer trash to a surgeon and now freaking out over everything, give me a break! And for the record, I wish Burke would dump Christina!
How is it that McDreamy was able to dive in the freezing water, pull her out and climb up the steps and out of the Sound with her but she fell in and without much effort, sank like a stone? Can Meredith not swim?
hey McVickie, When in the field you make do with what you have to. That's part of using up the supplies that you brought. Not impossible not to tear the dura, she is a surgical resident in neuro-surgery she probably has seen this once or twice before.
Man, this show is somethin' else. It is truly addictive. The cast is wonderful and the writing is great. I would love to see more of the dead pan humor (there still are some great zingers). And I agree that it should be limited to one tragedy per season or so. The cast's chemistry is suberb. But please make Dr Burke less annoying. He complains about everything! Yang - let him go!
I agree that this show needs to stick to the day-to-day reality of the characters. I can't stand these one-bigger-than-the-next tragedies that keep happening. What makes this show delicious is the peeking into the lives of these beautiful, intelligent, successful, yet imperfect people. The show is treading on dangerous ground of becoming unbelievable and predictable with these "big events," which they could easily avoid by sticking to what they are so good at.
Who cares if they are trying to make it like ER? Grey's is the best show on television right now and as long as ABC doesn't screw it up like they did Once And Again, I will get to look forward to Thursdays and thank God it won't be to watch Earl or the Office. And about George and Callie, Izzie is wrong. George and Callie are fabulous together and they fit so perfect. I love them!
Meredith isn't going to die, unfortunately. She's the weakest character on the show, as the lead always is, but sadly the lead character never dies.
No way can they possibly kill off Meredith! She's much too much an integral part of the show. Besides too many of us would stop watching...........I too, love the personalities of all the characters; such a good balance, I don't see how they could posssibly nix any of them! Hopefully the writers will continue to develop said personalities and put the drama there......where us viewers love it! You go Grey's Anatomy (that is if we keep Grey!Meredith Grey!)
To all of those who understand that this is just a TV show for our enjoyment and pleasure, keep watching. This is some of the best TV I have seen. I am glued to the set the whole time and I am not afaid to say so. The inner workings of these characters is what draws you in and keeps you there. The other stuff that is going on is just fluff. It is the interactions that the characters have with each other that make the show for me. I can't wait for next week. This has been almost too much for my heart to handle. Rock on Grey's!!!! P.S. Meredith is not going to die, that would be silly.
I'm predicting that Meredith won't die. And while I agree that the tragedies are getting a little out of hand, I'm still interested. (Plus it's going to be nice to spend some more quality time with Denny and the cute bomb-squad guy.) Izzie isn't a bitch; she's just nosy and takes her concern for her friend(s) too far sometimes. George is weak, so he's going to tell Callie what Izzie said - which is going to tick Callie off...more drama to ensue. Oh, and the writers do an excellent job with Alex - making you love him without ever stopping your hatred of him too.
You remember that episode of Happy Days where the Fonz jumped the shark.... Yeah, well so did Grey's. My fiance loves this show and I used to find it enjoyable until Izzie became so annoying. And why didn't Meredith try to swim? I mean, she wasn't knocked unconscious and she was only in the water for a few seconds before she sank. Give me a brake! I can't believe that Grey's pulled out the near death experience during the second season. I mean, it took MASH like 8 seasons before they pulled that one. My $.02.
I think the reason Izzie is so on George's case is because she secretly loves him. Meredith probably won't die, she's having a near death experience and then I could see her being in a comma. I love this show, by the end of last nights episode, I was on the floor screaming at the tv, I didn't want it to end and I really can't wait for next weeks episode to see what happens.
we don't have to love every character or situation to love the show. it's a good show with a great cast and even better writers. the show is too popular to start killing off it's main characters.....so enjoy the suspense for now and watch the show for the sheer enjoyment, not to disect it for flaws. every episode can not consist of just romance or just medical situations , it's the combination and great characters that make it work.
I love the show. Everyone is great. I think it is great that they are all different. Thats what makes this show what it is. I no a less 16 people who watch it. We all talk about it and we all love it.
I'm sick and tired of Izzy's character as well. She's always putting her foot in her mouth, both on the show and in reality. Based on her real life statements about Isaiah Washington, who is an established actor, with or without "Greys", he'll have continued successes. I no longer watch this show because it's lost all objectivity.
All last night, watching, I was thinking that it would be ironic if Meredith's mother was having her operation and died and they both met together and resolved their issues in a near death experience. They have a whole hour next week, so it could still happen. Something, anyway to look forward to. Just want to mention to you - Vicki - that I also loved all your McComments.
I love the show. Everyone is great. I think it is great that they are all different. Thats what makes this show what it is. I no a less 16 people who watch it. We all talk about it and we all love it.
I second the Denny comment. To see him standing there with Dylan, I wanted to lick both of them. Sigh....God I miss Denny. Thank you Shonda-you DO care.
I'm doubting Meredith will die. I actually used to hate her whiny, self-absorbed character, but I am slowly coming around to liking her a bit more. Izzie really is the one who annoys me. I know it is possible to survive that long in frigid waters, so it would be believable if she survived just fine. I think the shock of the cold water and heavy wet clothes was why she didn't fight as much. I wonder if McDreamy and her will have tension later on, because I wonder if he'll think she tried to kill herself. I find it less believable that they only had one patient each. I work at a hospital and have been through mass casualty incident and the pace is frantic--you are quicky finding out who can be saved, getting them out and everyone available is helping the people. All the doctors wouldn't just go to one patient. And to those complaining about how over-the top the show is, of course it is!!! That is why I love it. I get sucked in and I get to escape reality!
I'm sure we'll get a nice tour of heaven for 42 minutes next week before Meredith is warmed up and revived. I consider last night's episode the official "shark jump" of Grey's Anatomy. Since I find Meredith annoying as hell, I wouldn't mind her being killed off...
Meredith will not die, but I think her mother may. Ellis is still awaiting her heart surgery, and what better way for her to have the last word?
Come on people, please. Meredith will not die. Then we would not have a drama queen, and who could ever replace her in McDreamies life? I love this show, I am so toatlly hooked on it, if I miss an episode, I have to watch it via the internet, thank god for DSL!! But all kidding aside, you can't have "Grey's Antamony" w/ out Grey.


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