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Dissecting 'Sopranos' final scene: Questions abound

Posted: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:49 PM by Gael Fashingbauer Cooper
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The comments on my first 'Sopranos' finale post are just getting too long to wade through, so let's start a new post. And let's delve more into the scene that everyone's talking about, the final scene at Holsten's, the characters who populated the diner, and the Journey song that ended the show.

The Nikki Leotardo question
People have been posting all over the Web that the guy in the diner who disappeared into the men's room was credited as Nikki Leotardo, the nephew of Phil, claiming that the same actor has appeared as Nikki before. But is that true?  This Philadelphia newspaper article interviewed Paoli Colandrea, the Italian pizzeria owner who played that character, who says he was just dubbed "Mystery Man," and that he has NOT been on the show (or any show) before. In this feature, the man claims to know what happens after the episode ends, leading some credence to the idea that he may have had ulterior motives. When I rewatched the credits, I saw Colandrea credited only as"Man in Members Only Jacket." I watched the credits twice and never saw a mention of "Nikki Leotardo."

The New York Times was one of the ones spreading this rumor, and one of their commenters claims that the guy in the Members Only Jacket was Nikki Leotardo, despite what his credit said. How they can know this, when according to the Philly article above, Colandrea was never on the show before, I have no real idea.

"Members Only" is also the name of the Sopranos episode where Uncle Junior shoots Tony.

The other extras in the diner
What about the other suspicious people in the diner? Or were they only suspicious to those who knew this was the series' final scene? A post reproduced in this Deadspin entry claims that the Cub Scouts seen in the diner were the same little boys in the model-train store when Bobby was shot last week. (Shouldn't those kids still be in 24-hour therapy, after what they saw?) It also claims that "trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body." It goes on to claim that the two African-American men who walk in to the diner tried to kill Tony in an earlier episode, "but only clipped him in the ear."

But at least one commenter has pointed out that one of those men was killed in his original episode. And the NY Times article I reference above says that HBO is denying that any of the characters in that final scene, Cub Scouts, truckers, African-American guys, whatever, were EVER on the show before.

Don't Stop Believin'
Every 1980s music fan instantly recognized the Journey tune, "Don't Stop Believin'" when Tony played it on the jukebox in the final scene. The guys from Journey knew it was being used, but not that it would be used in such a pivotal way. In this fun feature, keyboard player Jonathan Cain, who wrote the song along with Steve Perry and Neal Schon, reveals that he didn't tell his family in advance, watching the show along with them and waiting for his song's moment in the sun.

Tony passes up Journey's "Any Way You Want It," which as many viewers point out, could be the theme song for the episode. (The other song that is often mentioned, "You Keep Me Hangin' On," was played in the beginning of the episode. It's also been pointed out by many viewers because the lyrics so perfectly mirror how many viewers felt at the end of the episode.)

Will there be a movie?
Many viewers felt the ending scene was done as it was to set up a potential "Sopranos" movie. This Associated Press story says Chase has said he's "almost certainly not going to make a 'Sopranos' film" (but note that "almost"). Nikki Finke's May 10 column, however, makes it sound like Chase was recently inspired by thoughts of Soprano grandparents coming to the U.S., and that he may be thinking movie after all. ("Godfather 2," anyone?)

Update: Chase says no movie. Or does he?

Losing his shirt?
Some have argued for the scenario that the final scene was all a dream of Tony's. There's evidence for that. When he meets with Junior, he is wearing what appears to be a solid-colored beige shirt (partially hidden under his leather jacket). When he walks into Holsten's and stands for a second in the door, that shirt is still visible on him. It appears that he seems himself sitting at a table, and now that his jacket is off, he appears to be wearing a shirt with white stripes down the sides. Was everything from the moment he paused in the doorway a dream? Or was the light hitting his shirt in such a way that that, in combination with the jacket, the stripes were hidden?

Chase on the final scene
David Chase is (hiding out) in France at the moment, but he told New Jersey Star-Ledger TV critic Alan Sepinwall some interesting things about the ending. Sepinwall quotes Chase as saying "I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there ...No one was trying to be audacious, honest to God. "We did what we thought we had to do. No one was trying to blow people's minds, or thinking, 'Wow, this'll (tick) them off.' People get the impression that you're trying to (mess) with them and it's not true. You're trying to entertain them."

Assorted other "Sopranos" links:
--Home page of Holsten's, the Bloomfield, N.J. diner where it all went down. I see French fries on the menu, but as a reader pointed out, no onion rings. UPDATE: A reader points to this wonderful photo blog of Holsten's, which does in fact show onion rings...and they look pretty good, too.
--Other songs Tony rejected on the jukebox that might still have messages for him, in addition to "Any Way You Want It":  "Those Were the Days," "Only the Strong Survive," "Who Will You Run To," "Since I Don't Have You," "A Lonely Place," "I've Gotta Be Me."
--Readers point out: If you really want a lyrically complex song to dissect, earlier in the episode, in A.J.'s big scene with the SUV that burns up because he parks on leaves, Bob Dylan's "It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" is playing. (Lyrics here.)
--Many viewers have claimed that the ending is the classic "Lady or the Tiger" scenario. Tony could have been looking up at Meadow, the lady, and be safe, or at the tiger, someone come to kill him. Viewers/readers fill in the ending they want, and people can argue endlessly for their side. If you want to read the entire "Lady or the Tiger" story, it's here; if it's too long, Wikipedia has a summary.
--Here's information about the specific "Twilight Zone" episode being watched in the safe house.
--Best new vocabulary word to come out of the finale, as posted by Jimbosil at Television Without Pity: "I propose a new term for the TV culture lexicon: Meadowpark (noun): An ambiguous, sudden ending to a long-running television series. 'Oh my God, did you remember that last episode of the X-Files? What a (expletive deleted) meadowpark that was...' "

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The whole family getting whacked by the Russian that Christopher and Paulie let escape in Season Three (or was it Two?) would have the perfect ending to a show that left more dangling plot threads than an old checkered table cloth. Artsy Schmartsy my ass! It was pure commerce to keep the Sops' alive, Hollywood is sequel city and Chase wasn't about to kill his cash-cow. For me, The Sopranos died when Tony's Mom-from-Hell died. The show NEVER recovered after that and all the talking fish heads in the world won't convince me otherwise.
They all ate the onion rings whole -- a sort of communion.
Did you notice that when the third bell rings, Tony's shifted to the right of the screen. This indicates that he was blowing a fart.
OK, I watched the last episode again yesterday and I have warmed up to the conclusion and I will explain why: First, the way I see it, Tony did not get wacked. When meadow crosses the street to go into the restaraunt, no one is going in ahead of here. There is no one else in the scene anywhere. In addition, as far as the discussion with Tony and Bobby about not seeing the end coming, it all goes black, When the screen goeas blank, we, the viewers are looking at Tony as he sees Meadow come through the door. In order for it to "go black" fo Tony, we would have to be seeing everything through Tony's eyes. He didn't get wacked, but someone else did! As viewers, we were brought into the world on the Sopranos, with all the goings on, the loose ends, the killings, etc. We became so involved that we felt as part of the story itself, as if we were in the world depicted and the lives portrayed like friends we routinely visit. We have become emotionally involved with the story and with the characters. We felt the range of emotions as some of our friends were killed and when there were close calls for our "Family", whether bodily harm, legally or emotionally. That being said, The one being wacked at the end of the show was you and I, the viewer. We lived the mob life and at the end we were "taken out", like so many of the characters before. We watched Tony and his family getting ready for dinner, and even though it was the last show, we didn't see ourselves getting wacked. We were sure it would be someone else and sat in our "Comfort Zone" in our recliners, couches, etc. We didn't see the end coming, and it just suddenly went black for us. So they go on as always, but we have been wacked and will no longer be part of the story, just as some of the main characters that are also no longer part of the story! As far as the loose ends, just as in real life, and just as the other wacked charatcers, we don't live to see any loose ends tied up or resolved. We didn't see it coming and now it is nothing but black for us.
Not really anything to do with the ending, but just adding to the final episode mysteries. Regarding Janice's visit with Junior, i thought she said something to the effect of ...it's Janice, your daughter... Am I making this up, or what?
I just shake my head at all of the conspiracy theorists, it's a television show after all. Or maybe I'm missing something that I can't pick up on the minutae while trying to enjoy the whole of the show. I thought the ending was brilliant, well done David Chase!!
Who cares? I'm sick of all the Sopranos coverage. It's over, done and finished. Let's move on.
the kids in the suv were not phils children they were his grandchildren
Everytime someone walked into the restaurant the camera was first on Tony and then on whoever was entering through the door. One man was shown to walk off to the bathroom and would either be on the side or behind Tony's line of site. When Meadow finally walks through the door the camera shows Tony look up and we, the viewer, just hear the door chime.The next angle is not of the door like the previous camera sequence but goes black almost indicating Tony got shot and this camera view, in the first person, goes black indicating what someone might see as they got shot.So just as he looks up at Meadow he gets capped.
"The Sopranos" ended with Tony and his family eating onion rings in a local diner - nothing more, nothing less. The best comment here is "Tony doesn't die at the end, but the foreboding sense of doom and paranoid anxiety the viewers experienced in the last scene is what Tony has to endure for the rest of his life. Every day he survives means nothing more than that he hasn't been whacked YET." The stupidest comment is "Feeling manipulated during the last scene at the restaurant, I turned off the TV..."
Is it possible that AJ's statement "Remember the good times..." was a reference to the good episodes - unlike this season? The Russians in the snow, the end of Ralphie, Pussy, Ade?
I have a feeling that David Chase set the stage perfectly for a movie version of the Soporanos. After all, the character of Tony Soporano was left intact so anything could happen.
I think fans are looking into the last scene a little bit too much. Analyzing every suspicous character in the diner. I think that Chase was just trying to prove that no matter where the Soprano family goes together or individually that they always have to have eyes on the back of there head. That's just the way these type of "people" have to live there lives.
It was a perfect ending to a terrific series. While Tony is, fundamentally, a very bad person, he was the hero of the series. For that reason I was satisfied that he was not clipped. Leotardo was eliminated: that was enought closure for me. I've watched all the episodes of the series multiple times, and the final one meshes consistently with the way Chase has threaded the entire series. If he had chosen to end it any other way, he would have violated the authenticity of the show. Life is not black and white and there are few cut and dried resolutions to anything. Stuff happens, and life goes on.
The ending was brilliant. I'm the one that got whacked. I'm the one that experienced exactly what was described in earlier episodes. I had no warning, no sound, everything just went blank. Tony's face was on the screen when it happened. I was looking at Tony. I was the intruder, I knew too much... I didn't have to even be in the restaurant. Chase found me and took care of me. Blair Witch Project ended in a simular fashion, but in the end you were looking from the perspective of the victim. The last split second I was looking at Tony when the lights went out. In essence, Chase did to us what we have been fascinated by for so long. He let us be a part of their world... It wasn't personal, it was only business...
The final scene was perfect. David Chase built the tension to the point where it was almost unbearable then nothing but black screen. GOTCHA. Everyone is left to draw their own ending. I hate to say it but Tony is dead. "You don't hear it coming everything goes black" Tony let his guard down and that's when they(what was left of the NY mob) got him. The last thing he saw was Meadow, the one he loved the best. I don't want to see a movie because the story is over there is nothing else to say. Thanks Mr. Chase for a wonderful ride and a good laugh. You GOT us all and left us with some great memories. To those who need a neat little package to tie everything up let it go. Let your imgination soar come up with your version of an ending and be happy with it. It is only a TV show. although one of the best ever, it is still a TV show. BYE Tony, Carmella, A.J. and Meadow. It's benn great. Barb from Johnstown.
I loved the show and watched every episode. The finale took everyone by surprise but I think it was great. I think it accomplished its purpose and that is what these blogs are all about. We keep talking about these people we love and hate and I really enjoy reading everyone's ideas and conclusions about what may or may not have happened. Hoping we see the Soprano's again..either a movie or a another series. I'll miss them all and I thank Mr. Chase and the entire cast for entertaining us for all these years. It was a great ride and God Bless You All!
ok everyone, please stop the madness. Is everyone truly analyzing the lack of steak or onion rings on the menu, and how it not textbook Soprano's that the menu isnt true to form??? Do you think the "Bada Bing" is called the Bada Bing? Monk's Cafe in Seinfeld is Tom's Restaurant -- WHO CARES?? Symbolism, Dream Sequences, Good v. Evil, Feng Shui, Red Herrings, ONION RINGS FOR GOD'S SAKE!?!?!??! It's a TV show series finale that ended the way David Chase wanted it to end. I mean, seriously, he wrote it, directed it, everyone's SAID that there's no reason to read into anything. All the relationship questions/concerns/issues have seemingly been tied up, however, with LIFE GOING ON. That's IT. Think: "Henry Hill at the end of Goodfellas". Did you LOVE that ending??? I gaurantee you'll kiss that movie's @ss upon request though. You people (which must include ME to a degree since i'm at least reading and writing about it) want so much more, but why? IT'S TELEVISION FICTION PEOPLE!! But i do think that cat was Christopher reincarnated, don't you? I can't believe I spent 7 minutes writing this. Take care.
Onion rings as a key point. Sorry. Re-watched the show last night and Tony clearly tells AJ he had already ordered some when they arrive. He knows his kids and wife. Chase has made it possible for everyone to write their own ending. He used Hitchcock-ian scenes to build tension in the viewer toward an event that might -- or might not -- occur. The juxtopositioning of songs, TV shows, comments from Little Italy tour guides all added subtle underlying meaning to the show. Even the FBI agent. Cheating on his wife and playing his own angle (like Tony) to get his goal of justice (Phil's death) by any means. The lines of good and evil blend together. And what was with that scene with the female FBI agent. Did Harris need some Viagra or did she not like giving out info on Phil's location?
I think Dave Lawson and Steve from seattle have it right. the last scene is the best imagery of BEING Tony Soprano that Chase has yet put to film. I have always enjoyed the Sopranos and especially the music. Having Tony and family leave on my favorite Journey song makes the ending an everlasting memory.
in the final scene, the song before "Dont Stop Believing" Starts with the lyrics "All, All that you dream..." Tony shows up, then is watching himself at the table. Janice walks in. Meadow is delayed walking in, just in time to see Tony shot, just like Janice did with her father. But, is it all a dream.
Wonderful ending. Here's how i see it. Chase may be setting up the most vanilla character of them all (Meadow) as the focal point of a movie (if he chooses) All year and especially in the last episode Carmella and Tony lament the fact that Meadow is going to be a lawyer, not a Dr. It's clear that the feds have Tony. Movie opens w/Meadow entering the diner followed by the Feds doing exactly what Meadow said pushed her in to being a lawyer. The Feds roust Tony in a very unflattering way. The problem w/making a movie is that virtually all of the great characters are dead. Chris, Phil, Johnny Sac, Richie, Ralphie, Sil and Junior (basically) The way to get them back into a movie is thru flashback. Now fast forward a few yrs from the diner scene and here is Meadow becoming a world class defense att'y and she is defending Tony. The conflict (and Chase loves conflict) is that Meadow who turned a blind eye for so long with regard to her dad's doings now faces them as gov't evidence. She is tormented between doing her job and defending her dad and what she really is finding out about her. Sets up some wonderful scenes between Tony/Meadow and Carmella/Meadow. But by reenacting some scenes 9as evidence) Chase can bring back the "old crew" which will satisfy the masses.
The Soprano family after all these years dining at upscale restuarants finally had a family dinner at average joe's restuarant. That seemed pretty interesting in the final scene.
It is strange to me noone has considered the possibility of the Soprano family going into a witness protection program. There is so much meeting with the FBI at the end. In fact the peace they seem to show in the diner suggests they know this is where their life will begin again without the fear they've always known. The show is so much about family. And we all related to so much in their life through the years. Why not imagine the possibility of their actually leading a mundane family life somewhere else and of course continuing to have all of the same problems and intrigues we all have minus the bizarre mayhem of the Soprano mob life. This could open all sorts of possibilities for the creative Mr. Chase, but also leave us wondering endlessly about the much more interesting possibilities continuing life offers as opposed to complete anihilation. All those shadowy figures could have been FBI in disguise to guard and help them safely out. They were also in disguise for the audience to imagine the other more obvious endings. Tony had tons of juicy info for the program to be motivated to complete this scenario. Why not??? Huh????? Isn't this really what we loved about this show, not the constant blood but the survival and trials of this family amidst the blood.??????
I keep going back to the previous episode where Tony meets the N.Y. Jets headcoach in his favorite resturant (why?) and then the blackout scene at the end of the last one. It reminded me of the "Heidi" incident in 1968, where NBC pull the plug on the Jets/Raiders game in the final minutes, a black screen for a few seconds and then the Heidi movie started. NBC had the whole eastern seaboard wondering who won the game while the west coast (Hollywood) didn't have that problem. Just a thought, but I wonder if Chase is a Jets season ticketholder?
Mike from Boston: "Indeed he wanted to profit from the Virgin Mary sighting." Tony was joking man! He was giving Paulie a hard time for the completely ridiculous idea that Paulie saw the Virgin mary at a strip club. People are reading way too much into this stuff. Get off the peyote guy. It ended...the viewers got whacked. Tony will go on and on and on.
The genius of the ending is that WE (the viewer) gets whacked. If we go back to Tony and Bobby's conversation in the boat (where when you're shot you don't hear it coming and it just goes black) then it makes sense. Out of nowhere, it ends. The series is over, the viewer gets whacked!
The genius of the ending is that WE (the viewer) gets whacked. If we go back to Tony and Bobby's conversation in the boat (where when you're shot you don't hear it coming and it just goes black) then it makes sense. Out of nowhere, it ends. The series is over, the viewer gets whacked!
Not that I buy into the dream sequence theory, but I believe the song playing at the start of the Holsten's scene was "All That You Dream" by Little Feat
I'm going to miss Paulie -- you can't help but love the guy. He was my FAVORITE wiseguy!! Will miss Janice too.
I've heard this explaination before, but it kind of makes sense. In real terms the viewers got whacked...out of Tony's world. His life goes on if only in his fictional universe which we no longer have access to. The end comes when you don't expect it, and just like that it's over.
Would love to know in the upcoming weeks how many people cancel their HBO??
I thought the ending was the worst written ending I've seen in a series. I'm very disappointed.
A friend points out that the whole show was about an end of an era. The tour bus notes that Little Italy used to be 40 blocks, now a fraction of that. Phil's lieutenant, walking through Little Italy, finds himself at the end of the conversation in Chinatown, lost. Tony decides NOT to play Tony Bennett, chooses Journey instead. Uncle Junior's only response to "this thing of ours" is, "that's nice." The title, "Made in America," suggests not just a "made" guy, but that it's not the original any more. And instead of having manicotti for dinner, as Carmela promised, the Sopranos go to a cheeseburger joint.
Hey, didn’t “Gilmore Girls” also have its series finale end in a diner a few weeks ago? Maybe, this is how all series should end. Picture everyone who doesn’t get killed on "Lost" ending the series sitting around a diner!
we can all speculate...but, did anybody just LOVE that cat? Now that is what the Soprano's does best...the extra's. i thought paulie was a scream...poor OCD soul that he is. Things wrapped up nicely....Janice, the scariest mommy in the world...Junior really gone this time...the shrink finally flipping out....the enabling family..how ironic that paulie is left alone sunning himself...remember the 1st season when their were 5 others sitting there with him? i miss them already!!!!
1. I loved the ending and for me, the Sopranos live on. All of them. 2. I was so glad to see that shmuck Phil go down!! 3. AJ is SUCH a baby. I had enough of his depression act. 4. So long to the best show ever made!
David Chase whacked the audience. In the end, he didn't make the characters go away. He made you go away instead. Cut to black, you're done. Rubbed out. Get it?
I never believed that Tony was about to get "hit" in Holstens. The only people who knew he was eating there were Carmela, Meadow and A.J. Which one of them was going to order up a couple of African-American hitmen? The ending was intended to show that their rotten, superficial, endlessly dangerous lives would continue...until they didn't.
David Chase has just given arguably the best TV show ever more reason to be talked about. Why put closure on something so great and so revered? Leaving it open-ended has just solidified its greatness and leaves every Sopranos fan and more begging to see one more episode.
The beauty of The Soprano's is that we all loved and hated Tony at the same time. We watched every episode wanting something to happen to him yet hoping he'd prevail at the same time. That conflict made the series. The ending left us with that same conflict - it couldn't have been more perfect.
It's just a TV show. Outrage? Don't have to mourn Tony's death? Are you serious? IT'S JUST A TV SHOW.
For all of the reasons expressed by prior bloggers I concur that, as difficult as it is for us Tonyophiles to accept, Tony was whacked in the diner. To these I add the following: Tony was in the process of being indicted for crimes that could send him either to John Gotti's fate or even to the death chamber. As we know from prior episodes, Tony had never in his life done any appreciable prison time (unlike stand up guys such as Tony Blundetto, Richie Aprile and Phil Leotardo). I'm sure the NY families had the ability to learn of the impending indictment and they would have to be insane to roll the bones on Tony's not flipping and hope that he would do his time without cooperating. I'm guessing that Phil's successors correctly concluded that Tony would not (or could not) do time. As for Carmella and the kids, my guess is that the only other casualty in the diner was AJ, the NY families being fearful that the son would attempt to avenge the father (a la AJ's attempt on Uncle Junior and the young Vito Corleone (GF2).
My incredibly worthwhile contribution to this existential discussion of the whole Soprano's finale issue... >> Holsten's has onion rings: http://offthebroiler.wordpress.com/2007/06/11/nj-dining-holstens/
Has any commented on the obvious use of red in the final scene? Carmela's red coat? Red is known to symbolize death in film (and they were seated on a red banquette)which gives credence to the theory that Tony was killed and that's why the scene went to black. Even the use of the ketchup in the earlier scene.
He was killed.... in fact, the ending was genius if you've paid attention to the show or are just a fan of well developed well thought out plots that all tie together and have the memory of a champ to remember it all the ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell yall why and explain in detail... There was 3 people in the room total who had a reason to kill tony..... the two black guys, they were paid before to kill tony but he was only shot in the ear, this was in one of the earlier seasons, also in the earlier seasons, the trucker who was sitting at the bar stool, who the camera kept focusing in on, is Nikki leotardo, Phil Leotardos nephew, he was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down.... heres where the genius comes in.... When tonys walking in the diner,you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking @ the booth hes gonna sit at... then the camera switches back to tonys face, then it once again switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking @ the door and looking @ the people come in..... Everytime the door opens the Chimes sound....... Carmela walks in, Chimes, AJ walks in Chimes, this when Meadows parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant.... at this point the camera switches back to the trucker who goes in the bathroom...... Then it goes to a scene where meadow finally parks and starts running in the diner.... the doors about to open, Tony looks up.... and No Chimes...................... No Music............ Everything just goes black............... In one of the early episodes of the sopranos, tonys talking with bobby about what it must feel like to die.. Bobby says "at the end, you probably dont hear anything, everything just goes black" part of that was revisited in the second to last episode during the last seconds of it, when tonys about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and bobby on the boat... "You probably dont hear anything everything just goes black" so in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when meadow came in, the guy in the trucker hat came out and killed tony... its the reason you aint hear, or see shit when he died.... it was from his perspective.... and everything went black, then the credits rolled.
The ending was better than expected. However, in the previous episode they did cut (out of nowhere) to Tony and Bobby in the boat talking about what it's like to be killed and Bobby says something like "everything just goes black, you probably don't hear nothing, feal nothing or see nothing." I feel better now that I know that all those people in the restaurant weren't in previous episodes as people have said. Perfect ending and I hope in a few years they come back with one more season. Someone needs to tell Tony (James) that it's not about putting out a bad image, but more importantly the best ensamble of actors ever on a series. Granted he is in virtually every scene an it probably drains more on him than anyone else, so he should call the shots. Hopefully he changes he mind and this ending would allow him to do so....
Didn't someone once say, "You always leave them wanting more!" That's what here did but we will never know now will we. . .
I finally parked the car.
Listen to what is said on the tv sets playing during the finale and you will laugh at what is being said.


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