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'Cavemen' struggle to evolve from commercial to sitcom

Posted: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:08 PM by Gael Fashingbauer Cooper
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We've discussed the Geico cavemen commercials in our Test Pattern TV commercial contest -- most viewers find the ads funny and sharp. But they're 30-second ads! When it was announced this spring that ABC was turning the "Cavemen" into a 30-minute sitcom, I think even the biggest fans of the commercials had some Brontosaurus-sized doubts. And from the horrible pilot episode, and the frantic scrambling to rewrite the show, it looks like those doubts were justified.

Joe Lawson, who wrote the ads, and Josh Gordon and Will Speck, who directed them, are on board with the show. But the three actors who played the "Cavemen" in the ads have been replaced by actors Nick Kroll, Bill English, and Sam Huntington.

What happened to the guys from the commercials? Commercial "Caveman" John Lehr, the one who seeks the help of a therapist (Talia Shire), can be seen on the TBS show "10 Items or Less." Fellow commercial "Caveman" Ben Weber had a conflict that wouldn't allow him to do the show, the producers said. But the third "Caveman," Jeff Daniel Phillips, will be making occasional appearances on the sitcom, playing a Caveman named Maurice.

I've seen the "Cavemen" pilot, and it is dumb dumb DUMB. Dumber than a caveman. Dumber than a caveman's therapist. Ironically, there are some funny bits when the three cavemen are sitting around the house doing exactly what they did in the commercial -- bemoaning how the world has misjudged them as a group. (They spot a horribly drawn artist's rendering of a supposed caveman criminal on the news and compare him to a "hairy baby raisin.")

But when the cavemen go out into the world, the pilot turns into a tumble of cliches about how one of them didn't fit into the rich cowboy world of his girlfriend's daddy. Just horrible. That pilot has been yanked and is being reworked, and may appear, in a different version, around five episodes into the show's run. If it gets that far.

GAEL'S GRADE: D. I like the "Cavemen" in their ads, but this pilot was just embarrassing.

TIDBITS:
--Cavewoman, cave-parents, cave-grandparents, and a subgroup of cavemen who try to deny their identity by constantly shaving their distinctive facial hair, will all be introduced later in the show's run. Again, if it gets that far.

--Critics battered the all-white, all-male panel of producers and stars for trying to tackle issues of diversity and prejudice against a minority group, even a non-existent one. Numerous critics pointed out that the stereotypes (great dancers! athletic! known for their sexual prowess!) displayed by the cavemen in the pilot seemed to fit stereotypes about African-Americans, but the producers denied that was the case.

--The caveman makeup takes three hours to apply, and often includes body hair, sometimes put on via hair-covered arm sleeves.

--Don't expect to see Geico ads featuring the cavemen once the show hits the air. No new commercials are being made, and the current ads are likely to be suspended at least while the show runs. Geico owned the cavemen characters, but struck a deal with ABC so the network could do the show. (ABC president Steve McPherson earlier said that there is no deal regarding commercials that run during the show, so it's possible you'll see commercials for other insurance agencies running during "Cavemen.") Geico executives are enthused about the show and rooting for it to succeed, producers said.

--Creator Joe Lawson said the show is not about the same cavemen from the ads. "I always see it as these cavemen are the cousins of the cavemen in the commercials," Lawson said. "So the guys in the commercials are doing their own thing and living their own lives, and then ours are kind of off on their own tangents. There may be some similar crossover, but it would be incidental if that happens."

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It can't be any dumber than the reality shows on tv now. Just seeing the words "Big Brother 8" or "The Real World: Glendale" on my tv listings is sickening enough. I will gladly watch a show with REAL actors doing something as mundane as playing cavemen. It worked for the Dinosaur show didn't it?
I pray the show succeeds, but it likely will fail. Mainstream TV offerings tend not to appeal to me because I am an outsider, like the Cavemen, alienated from and generally disgusted by you folks in the mainstream (and pleased to be free of you but distraught to have to live in the same world, one which you control). If a TV show premieres that appeals to me (hello, Studio 60), it's practically guaranteed to be a flaming failure in your world. Sadly, most mainstream Americans lack taste and intelligence and get over having everybody -- even characters of different ethnicities and hues -- act as if they are mainstream. It's a shame: Cavemen, I believe, may be a show to which I can relate. At the age of 45, I've had a long dry spell of being stuck with no TV or TV that's all about the mindless mainstream. Would have been nice to see MY daily concerns on the boob tube. Oh well, at least until October, I have the GEICO ads.
I haven't really heard any details about the show other than "It's not funny".  Well...that could mean anything.  I would hope they'd go deep on concept, like we see that they all live in houses, but when you go inside---nothing---all the furniture, etc., is in the basement--yes--they only live in houses or apartments with basement levels.  The upper levels are decorated as arboretums.  Did they even make that much of an effort?  
Nope, they live in regular houses, with furniture. They drive cars, wear clothes, have jobs. That much is true to the commercials. It's not the concept that is inherently unfunny -- it's not. It's that the writing of the (now yanked) episode that is just excruciating to watch.
The show could be very funny.  They could be totally politically incorrect and not offend anyone since there are no real caveman.  The very nature of being politically correct is a farce anyway (free speech).  It is the politically incorrectness of the ads that makes it funny.  Turn that into a show and you could go on and on.  I don't see how it couldn't be funny.  Here you have a group of people you can make fun of without offending anyone in the real world.  You could talk about issues that affect everyday people without offending a real group.  It is too perfect.  How the writers could screw this up and make a crappy pilot I have no idea.  You have to have some sort of teenager in this or a preteen.  I mean a caveperson going through puberty, going to the prom, being part of the swim team, getting mistaken for bigfoot on a camping trip, being charged more for a haircut, the college graduate getting in trouble for knocking his his girlfriend over the head to propose because it is keeping up with the culture of the family, the inside of their house being decorated with cave paintings, I could go on and on.  If you are a writer for this show, contact me...I got tons of script ideas.
Just rent the movie "encino man".
Another example of Hollywood taking something that is mildly amusing in short exposures and trying to make it into an evening's (or a half hour's) entertainment event.  

The Cavemen are just that.  Mildly amusing in 15 and 30 second exposures, so I expect the show to be exactly the same thing.  15 to 30 seconds of mild amusment, but, unfortunately, it will be crammed into a half hour episode.
It seems like any interest the general public might have had for way more Cavemen would have been served by the 5,346 previous Geico Cavemen commercials.  I really don't feel I need to know any more about these characters.  And buzzing about online, the most frequent query I see about the ads isn't about the characters, but "what's that song in the ad in the airport?" (it's "Remind Me" by Goldfrapp, btw).  If there's a Geico ad I want to see realized as a series, it's Tiny House -- perhaps because there was just one ad, leaving me wanting more.
What? They can cancell shows like Firefly and put this crap on?  Its has been a long time since I have had to choose between two witty and interesting shows on at the same time,  Its more along the lines of "Anything on this week?"   So now even if its not "reality" TV, its going to be contrived dribble!  Can't wait for the GEICO spinoff.
Read the sci-fi trilogy "Hominids," "Humans," and "Hybrids," by Robert J. Sawyer.  Relates what happens to ordinary people and the world in general when we accidentally contact a parallel universe where Cro-Magnons (us) died out and Neanderthals survived and built up an advanced civilization.  
The humor - and the point - of the Cavemen is the juxtaposition of their sophistication against their stereotype. If these characters are not written as urbane, well-educated and socially adept, and played completely straight, the show will be painfully unfunny,and meaningless as well.
I'd much rather forego the stupid sitcom in favor of more Geico ads.  The caveman ads are my favorite every year.  
It's too bad Phil Hartman is no longer around to play his Caveman Lawyer character from his SNL days.  The show would be a hit based on that alone.
I had a chance to see this pilot too.  I was shocked that it even was prodcued.  The stereo-tpes protrayed were not entertaining or humorous at all.  All the things that made the commercials a hit are all missing from this pilot.  You were generous with your D.  It got an F in my book, and no matter how much retooling they do, this series won't make it past the 4th episode before it gets pulled.  I'd rather see Ringo Starr's Caveman up on the screen then this sad attempt to cash in on a craze.
I personally can't stand the Geico caveman commercials.  They creep me out for some reason and I don't find them funny at all.  I was disturbed to hear they are making a tv show.  How could that be good??  I was happy to read the pilot sucked and I hope it never makes it to prime time.  This may be harsh but I'd rather watch a reality show than cavement living in today's society.
all geico commercals are stupid and annoying.especially the ones with the english accent green thing.
Sure why not ?.  Are we not all cavemen ?.  JJS
sorry ralph, the little green thing is austrilian---not english.  I have to admit, I liked the geiko when he never spoke though.  I thought he was adorable then, now I hate listening to him, I hit the mute button.  The cave man I have to agree, don't like them at all.
dakota
Didn't know about the pilot, but if they were anywhere near as painfully out of character as they appeared in the clips viewable on their website, it was simply too humiliating to witness.


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