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'CSI' without Gil Grissom? I'll pass

Posted: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:00 AM by Paige Newman
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“Well, there goes that show,” my pal, co-worker and fellow “CSI” devotee, Gerrie said after hearing the news that William Petersen is leaving “CSI.”

The show’s executive producer, Carol Mendelsohn, was quick to try to put a positive spin on it, telling Entertainment Weekly’s Michael Ausiello, “There’s never going to be another William Petersen, and there will never be another Jorja Fox. But we are not out to just replace those actors. We’re out to add new characters to the show, and the show will change as a result. But that’s a good thing.”


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Um, no, it’s not. Petersen’s Gil Grissom is the heart of “CSI” – he creates the show’s offbeat personality that keeps it more than a few steps above “CSI: Miami” and “CSI: New York.” And despite what “Law & Order” creator Dick Wolf thinks, actors aren’t light bulbs; you can’t just replace one when it goes out and expect it to shine as brightly.

Yeah, “Law & Order” has gone on, but has it really been the same or as good as it was during Jerry Orbach’s Lennie Briscoe era? I know, he wasn’t with that show when it began, but when he joined the show, he gave it a center, and he gave it soul. Was “Homicide: Life on the Street” the same without Andre Braugher’s Frank Pembleton?

It’s frustrating when TV producers assume we care so little about the characters they create. Do they really think that “CSI” fans are just tuning in for the camera work or to find out who the latest murder victim is? And no, I don’t begrudge Petersen (or Jorja Fox or Gary Dourdan) the right to move on to other projects, but I also don’t think this top-notch show is going to be half as good.

Some of the changes that Ausiello pointed out are positive. He noted that Wendy, Super Dave and Hodges are all being promoted to main characters.  And at least last year, the producers seem to quickly realize that no one enjoyed Ronnie Lake (Jessica Lucas) – as she was yanked pretty quickly from the cast. Nick and Greg can probably be guaranteed more screen time, but it’s pretty hard to get excited about a Grissom-less “CSI.” I don’t even really care about “The L Word’s” Lauren Lee Smith joining the cast.

Ausiello did point out that another male cast member is joining late in the season, and that producers are looking at Kurt Russell, Laurence Fishburne or John Malkovich to possibly play him. They must be kicking themselves that they killed off Liev Schreiber’s character last year. But honestly, again, who cares? Russell, Malkovich or any other actor they add just won’t be able to replace Grissom.

Yep, I’ll be watching this fall (Grissom is rumored to be leaving sometime mid-season), but don’t be surprised if I don’t stay with it after Grissom’s exit. He’s the reason I started watching the show, so I guess it makes sense that he’ll be the reason I stop.

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No Grissom, no interest.  Most of the other members of the cast COULD be switched on and off.  I wanted Jorja Fox gone years ago.  Nick Stokes is annoying at best.  Warrick, well I liked him, yet he left.  But Grissom is the reason I watch CSI and the reason why I dont watch CSI: Miami and CSI: NY.  And while I like Katherine Willows, if there is no Grissom, CSI will go from "Cannot Miss When It Airs" to "might watch if nothing else is on, and even then that is a stretch."  I give if 1 year unless Grissoms "guest appearances" equate to half of the season, in order to try and con people into accepting the new lead.
While I like Kurt R., Larry F. and John M. as actors, I'm having a hard time picturing them in CSI.  How about having Marg H.'s character step into Grissom's spot? I've always seen her as the "second-in-command" and now I think she would be great as "first".
I agree. He was the linch pin, the character the others related to, even when they were relating to each other. As for upgrading Wendy, Super Dave, and Hodges - I don't care for that at all. I find them annoying at the very least and would prefer to see less of them, not more.
I think the show has gone downhill ever since Grissom and Sara became a couple. I know that a TON of people will disagree with me on that one, but I've never understood the basis for their relationship. There was always a crush-like tension coming from Sara, but Grissom repeatedly seemed put off by her antics and odd behavior, as though he knew she was just looking for a father figure. At any rate, I've watched the series since then, but more sporadically than before. When Grissom leaves, I imagine I too will slowly stop watching altogether.
No, this won't work.  Petersen is the reason I watch. In literary terms he is the "narrator" or point of intelligence of the show's content.  This does not constitute "jumping" of sharks or anything else.  This is burying the shark.  CSI without Grissom is CSDEAD.
Definitely a no-go without Grissom.  He's why I watch CSI (along with the rest of the cast) but totally ignore CSI Miami and CSI NY.  Tried to watch them but they just don't cut it.  Well, on the positive side, one less show to record on my DVR.
I'm right there with you! With half the cast gone, I'm not sure how much next season will hold my interest.  Grissom and Warrick were the core, the heart, of the show, and now we're left with Katherine (potential there), Greg (my favorite), and Nick (he doesn't do much for me).  I guess building the characters of the lab techs may help a little, but they haven't been developed as well as Greg was at the beginning, so my interest is still pretty low with them.
Now if Doc Robbins leaves (Hall), I'm really going to lose it :)
I am very,very sad William Petersen will not be back next season. He was the HEART AND SOUL of CSI. I KNOW he wants to pursue other things, BUT there is noone AS GOOD AS GIL GRISSOM. There was such a good relationship between him & the other castmates. It was visible on-screen, as much as off-screen.
I will reserve judgement until I see whoever takes his place, BUT I can GUARANTEE you, whoever takes his place will be SCRUTINIZED by us fans, AND probably won't make "THE GRADE."
I will not be watching the show any more that Grissom and Sarah are both off the show!! They should have gotten rid of Katherine...she thinks it's her show anyway.
The thought of Grissom and Sara "riding off into the sunset" together upon his departure makes me ill.  I don't care nor want to see anything about the character's offscreen lives. It's just more clutter that takes away from the essence of what makes CSI the show it is.
As for "replacing" Grissom??  Yeah, good luck with that.  Sara was easily forgettable for me, so I don't miss her one bit; Grissom, however, is the heart and soul of the show, and anyone else will pale by comparison no matter who they pick to fill the role.
If CSI didn't jump the shark when they brough Grissom and Sara's "romance" to the forefront, then it will as soon as Grissom takes his final bow.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I hope this is the last season.  I LOVE CSI, but too many changes means it's just not the same.  I used to love ER, and look at that!  I haven't watched ER in years since the days of Noah Wylie, Dr Green, etc.  I'd hate to have CSI go on and on and not live up to how good it used to be.
IT JUST RUINED MY DAY WHEN I HEARD THAT GIL WAS LEAVING.  HE IS THE ONE THAT MAKES CSI BETTER THAN THE OTHER ONES (MIAMI AND NY).  I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT HE MAY WANT SOMETHING NEW, BUT IT SURE WILL HURT THE SHOW RATINGS.  IF THE ABOVE ARTICLE IS CORRECT IT COULD BE OK.  I WOULD LOVE TO SEE KURT RUSSEL IN THE PART.  HE HAS BEEN MY HEARTTHROB SINCE HE WAS A TEEN ACTOR.  PLEASE GET SOMEONE GOOD SO I DON'T HAVE TO QUIT WATCHING ALL TOGETHER.
I think the show is in Big Trouble!  I will sure miss Grissom and I don't think you can get anyone to replace him.  I think all this will make Katherine happy she wants to be the main star anyway. I sure wish she would act and dress her age instead of thinking every man on the show is after her.
I'm inclined to agree.  I love CSI but I'm not sure if I'll continue to watch now.  It was bad enough when Sara left, but then Warrick's death, and now with Grissom heading out.  i get the feeling in a couple of seasons none of the original primary characters will still be there.  Either that or the show will stop completly, whichever comes first.
I'm with you Paige!  Grissom IS CSI!
I'm gonna say something that will probably upset lots of people but we're all entitled: The show is better without Jorga Fox but to lose Warrick and Grissom, back to back?  I doubt the show will recover, no matter who they bring in!  What a shame!
The fan-girl in me wants Grissom and Sara to ride off into the sunset...

Meanwhile I hope to see more of William Petersen and Jorja Fox in movies or other.
I absolutely agree!  I did not care one way or the other when Sarah left the department.  Her character struggled to win the hearts of regular viewers and we got over it quickly.  Grissom's departure, however, will leave the show severely wounded and ultimately contribute to the demise of the show.  Creators and writers will try putting a few stitches and a roll of gauze on the wound, but without Grissom it will bleed out quickly.
I agree - there goes the show! It has survived without Sara (but then, I never liked her or the character), but Grissom IS the heart and soul of this show. I'll watch to the end of the season, just to be fair, but I think we will be seeing the beginning of the end. How sad! If there is a bright side, well, that frees up my Thursday nights!
I second your motion...I don't think I can watch CSI w/out Grissom.  I stopped watching CSI Miami BECAUSE of David Caruso, and I think I'll stop watching CSI (Vegas) when Petersen leaves.
I am more than willing to keep on watching CSI all next season to give it a far chance. Who knows, it might actually still be watchable. When Liev Schreiber was announced to be on CSI, I heard lots of comments about how people wouldn't watch it without Grissom. But, those were actually some of the best episodes in recent seasons. I'm willing to give CSI the benefit of the doubt to get things together without Grissom. But, that being said - CSI without Grissom is like having a sandwich without the bread. Without the foundation, it just isn't the same.
I will give it till the end of the season to see how it goes, but you're right, the quirkiness that made the show will be hard to replace. MASH was successful in adding and subtracting characters, but that's about the only show that I feel was able to pull it off.
Grissom gone is a great loss. Add to that Catherine's snide "male bashing" comments, and you can count me as a FORMER fan too!
What happened to Sofia? After she finally stopped being a b***h to everyone she was almost likable.
They must be out of their mind!!!! CSI without Grissom is not worth my time in front of the TV
Wow ... did you read my blog or something?  This is almost exactly what I said when Petersen's departure was announced.  I completely respect his reasons for leaving, but I don't think the producers understand how vital the character of Gil Grissom is to the franchise.
Once I started watching the show I was hooked. I only watch this show because I just love watching Grissom.
His facial expressions really create the character.
I probably won't watch it much after his departure.
Ever since I saw Mr. Petersen in to live & die in L.A & Manhunter I have loved his style. He's great looking, a great actor and the show will " NEVER " be the same. You will have to search high & wide to get someone of his calibar, because he's one in a million.
sorry to see him go.
This is not a show I ever cared for, I find most of the stories too far fetched however; doesn't it reflect real life in that people leave their jobs for other offers and someone replaces them? ER hasn't exactly suffered since George Clooney left. Didn't Cheers get better when Shelley Long took off for superstardom and Kirstie Alley arrived?
I totally agree...what's the point after all the really good people are gone...with Marg and Eads, doubt they'll be able to carry the show by themselves..so like you, I'll watch until Grissom is gone!!!
The original CSI is excellent with great character development, storyline and cinamatography (love the music). The other CSI off shoots are some of the stupidest trash on TV barely ranking above reality TV. I will be giving the new characters a chance since I saw it work well with LAPD blue and I believe it will still be a top notch show. When you name the future you may be calling it forth. Be careful what you wish for or CSI will be replaced with "My goldfish is better than yours" in another reality show where insults, gossip and backstabbing in a completely meaningless setting passes for entertainment. I wonder for who.
If they just insist on cutting Grissom from the team/show - I suggest they do it in an episode directed by Quentin Tarantino.  JMHO
I can't believe Grissom's charactor is leaving too.  First, "Sara", then "Warrick", and not "Grissom". I agree with the writer of this article; the characters are essential to the show.  Once Grissom is gone, I to will probably stop watching the show.  It's too bad, because this was my favorite show.  I used to like Law & Order,but once Jerry Orbach passed away, the show was not the same.  I don't like it when a show replaces characters and expects the audience to not really notice.
I have to agree. I hoped  that Jorja would be killed off while buried by that serial killer. Too bad about Gary Dourdan-he's aces! But Gil? Can't say that ANY of the purported replacements will even come close to his fastidious, entomologist character. I'm a goner.
It will be sad to see Grissom go but I will still watch to  see what happens and who they bring in to replace Grissom.  I will give it a chance before I decide to  stop watching.  I gave the X-Files a chance after Mulder left and it was not the same show but it maybe different with CSI.  Just have to wait and see.  
I like Grissom, and he will be missed, but I also feel the show will move forward if they can get another good strong character to replace Grissom. I still like Criminal Minds. I will miss Warrick (Gary Dourdan)if he dies more than I will miss Grissom.
When 3 main characters leave (Fox, Dourdan and now Peterson) within a year you more or less have a new show on your hands. There's no way this will even remotely feel like the old show. Peterson brought a nerd factor to the lab that Miami and NY just do not have. Those other two "CSI" shows are nothing but playboys in lab coats acting like full blown detectives and vigilantes. I seriously doubt the writers/producers will keep it the same feel; And -that- is a shame.
Just another reason to stop watching CBS...they took off Moonlight and now this with CSI...I am done.
I completely agree.  CSI Las Vegas is the only CSI that is worth watching. Grisssom is what makes the
show, along with the other long time characters.
There are a few of us who will no longer watch the
show once they replace him.
I agree the show will not be as good. But even if it is only half as good, it will still be better than most of the junk on. When Mulder left the X-Files the result was still a good show. Just not the GREAT show we knew and loved.
I won't be watching after Petersen's Grissom leaves...he
is the heart of the show...the only show I watch where the show didn't tank when the 'star' left is Criminal
Minds.
I agree...I cannot stand CSI Miami, couldn't get into CSI NY.  The only one that really held my interest (every Thursday without fail!) was CSI LV - and the only one I really like on the show is Petersen even though I "enjoy" the other characters and feel they are well played.  Looks like I'll be getting the seasons on DVD to replay the "good ole days" after Grissom is gone!  
I agree, Grissom is "CSI" without him it's nothing.  Super Dave and Hodges are just irratating.
Please use Fishburne or Malkovich they would add a lot of character, the way the use their body language & voice
I never understand why producers keep a show going, despite the fact that the key characters leave.  Why can't they end the show on a high note, appreciate it for what it was and move on in life?  I know that there is money to be made, but for me personally, I would rather produce a quality product.  They should take pride in the fact that CSI did so well over the years, grasping at straws to keep it running does nothing but kill what it was and what it had to make it special.
AMEN TO THAT!!!!
I couldn't agree more with you! If the reason we watch the show was just the science then Discovery Channel would have higher ratings than CBS!
It's sad that the producers don't realize that Grissom IS CSI!
Well, the disappointments just never seem to end! Seems like all my very favorite shows just keep losing characters. After the strike last year anyway, everything went down hill.  I doubt I will keep up with them. I was at the t.v. for each one, never missing, but I guess nothing lasts forever.  Really too bad!
Without William Petersen or Gary Dourdan I don't think
I'll be watching
I agree, what's the point without Grissom?  He is the center of the show, he is the reason I watch.  It's his interaction with the other characters that makes the show what it is.  I will watch up until he leaves, and probably wait to see who will try and replace him.  I wish them luck I really do, but I won't be watching once he leaves.
CSI without Grissom is like bread without the butter.
I'm not surprised that he's leaving.  His first interest is theater, and this leaves him more time for it.  I stopped watching the show after Grissom and Sara hooked up, so Petersen's exit doesn't really impact me that much.  The quality of the show just dipped after their little romance.  Given that a lot of fans quit watching at this point, and many will stop watching after Grissom exits, I think the show is probably on its last legs.


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