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A travesty on 'So You Think You Can Dance'

Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00 AM by Paige Newman
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Last Thursday morning, I turned to TV editor Gael Fashingbauer Cooper and said, “Next week, I’m going to write about how Will is going to win ‘So You Think You Dance.’” Little did I realize the travesty that was in store that evening when the sweet (and, thankfully, often shirtless) Will got sent packing, along with female contestant Comfort.

OK, full disclosure here. I am one of those reality show watchers who never votes, yet always complains if the results don’t go my way. Annoying yes, but somehow, I think that if I don’t vote during the show, I somehow hang on to my fragile dignity (which tends to erode with some reality TV viewing, um, “Two Coreys,” anyone?).


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Will dances with Katee on "So You Think You Can Dance."

But Will? He was technically one of the best dancers – and, let’s face it, he has sex appeal.  I did have a moment watching last Thursday night’s show where I wondered whether I had been blinded by Will’s great body into thinking that he was a better dancer than he actually is.  But is the not-even-in-the-bottom-two-last-week Mark really a stronger dancer? No way. Likeable? Yes.  More talented? No.

The thing about “So You Think You Can Dance” is that, unlike “American Idol,” all the contestants are likeable. Every year, I always end up despising almost all the “Idol” wannabes. Hearing those cloying kids appear in Ford ads and sing songs from Broadway or Neil Diamond does nothing to endear them to me. Meanwhile, on “SYTYCD,” you get to see the sweat and work that the dancers put into each number and it’s hard not to admire them. Even Comfort, a dancer who I thought deserved to go home, really impressed with her drive, her athletic ability and her willingness to go so far outside her (no pun intended) comfort zone.

The show itself is more enjoyable than most reality shows. Instead of being assaulted with karaoke versions of the songs, they just use the originals. Yes, sometimes the artists are sort of dull, such as Celine Dion or John Mayer, but you also get music as varied as Santagold, Brother Yusef and Simian Mobile Disco. (Here’s a good full list of the songs from this season.) And, those Latin dances – yeah, the show actually uses appropriate music (unlike the more popular “Dancing With the Stars” which assaults us with dances set to the Monday Night Football theme).

As for those “jidges” (as Cat Deeley would say)? They’re not too bad either. Yes, Mary Murphy yelling about “the hot tamale train” can get old, but the fact that she seems to know her stuff puts her well above Paula Abdul. Nigel is a tad creepy (he does seem to like those skimpy outfits a bit too much), but he also is a slightly less acidic version of Simon. The guest judges vary in quality with last week’s Tony “it’s so street” Basil being one of the season’s worst. But, wow, if you want really poor judging, just turn on “America’s Got Talent” or “Shear Genius.” Ugh.

And now that dear, sweet Will is gone who will win? Well, I’m putting my money on either Katee or Joshua. And even if one of those two goes home this week, guess what? I’ll still be watching. Because though it may be a bit embarrassing to admit to people, I actually like this show.

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This is my favorite reality show because I love dance and because, as you said, everyone is likable.  I was really disappointed to see Will go before that other guy (mark?), but I didn't vote so I can't be too mad.  He'll be fine, he's got Debbie Allen on his side. I was happy to see Comfort go though, I wish she had gone last week instead of Kerrigan (sp?). I liked Comfort, but she was not as versatile as the rest of the dancers.  Kerrigan had a couple of really bad weeks, but I was hoping to see some of her sparkle again.
If you believe that America's voting prevails (and I think I do), the lesson here is that if viewers think, 'oh, he's so good, other people will vote for him,' they're wrong.  Frankly, I think Mark may be a good dancer, but he's such a goofball, I can't see him being successful as other finalists have been (as in coming back to choreograph for the show).  Will is/was by far a better dancer (even Mark's facial response told us he agreed) but somewhere in the viewing world, people chose to vote for Mark.  And Will will land on his feet (ignore the dancing metaphor), I'm sure.

I think we should do away with the electoral college.  Let voters eliminate candidates weekly until we have a President and Veep.
It was sad to see Will go.  I hear everyone about talent + personality.  I felt that his skill was great but he did seem distant.  I think his personality didn't begin to show thru until Jessica was gone. Then came a spark but too late!
Mark, Twitch and Joshua all have the personality.  As far as skill, Twitch is good at some stuff but ballroom seems to be a weak spot for him.  Mark is good and clearly tries to give it his all which wins him points.  
Joshua is my favorite - he has grown with each type of dance he has taken on and I've never been disappointed.  He and Katee were great and I think it could come down to them, IF THE AUDIENCE VOTE AND JUDGES VOTES WERE BALANCED OR WEIGHTED.  

However, think it may be Twitch because he's popular.

In future seasons they really need to give decision weight of maybe 55 % to the judges and 45 to the audience.  Or the reverse.   Either way, I'll probably still be watching.
Mark is my absolute favorite dancer across all seasons, AND has the technique to back it up. Except for his 2 hip-hop numbers, he just hasn't been given the routines to fully show his stuff.

On the other hand, Will was given outstanding choreography time and time again that fully showcased his training and in fact, often looked like solo numbers with another person (usually Jessica) just thrown in. Unfortunately, Will's performances were lackluster in his partner connection and in the limited emotion he conveyed. Seriously, his lyrical hip-hop last week was supposed to go down in "SYTYCD history" (according to Will)? I think not - I felt absolutely nothing.

For a fairer assessment, compare Will and Mark in the group numbers.  They BOTH outshined the other male dancers in "5 Moes" and their technique was spot-on. But Mark outshined Will in several other numbers, such as the Wade routine and Bollywood. Mark has been featured in many group numbers, a conscious choice made by the choreographers, including holier-than-thou Mia Michaels in her crazily demented black-and-white piece.

So while Will may have the edge in classical technique, Mark's technique overall (and particularly in hip-hop) is right up there. On top of that, he is a star-quality performer and was even declared a star by both Mia Michaels and Tyce. He attacks each dance with intensity and brings exactly the right character and emotion. He connects fully with his partner, or at least attempts to (Kherington). He completely draws me in every time.

So the notion that Mark deserved to go home before Will is pure baloney.  Mark has been given a lot of crappy choreography and lukewarm comments (except by Adam Shankman - love!), and I'm pretty sick of it. Really, the Texas two-step? Foxtrot twice? Sadly, this has achieved its intended purpose to an extent, judging by the number of viewers who apparently feel Mark is somehow a way-inferior dancer to Will. Absolutely not. Go Mark!!
The notion that Hawaii is keeping Mark in this competition is baloney. We are a tiny island state, and the media coverage is but a fraction of that enjoyed by Jasmine and Camille during American Idol.

Sure, we support our local boy 110%, but the idea that Hawaii is solely responsible for his success on the show is ridiculous. He has done that on his own, which is pretty amazing considering he had about 10 seconds of screen time in the Vegas episode (his brilliant Bohemian Rhapsody solo, which was cut way too short in editing) and zero screen time in the auditions episodes.
the show just isn't the same without Shane Sparks. He was the best choreographer and judge AND easy on the eyes......
We have to remember that this contest is for "America's FAVORITE Dancer" which has nothing to do with who's the best technical dancer.
Will got voted off because he doesn't need the show.  He already has Debbie Allen's backing, and he's almost *too* good.  I'd rather see it go to someone less experienced, with more room to grow, and I suspect voters felt the same way.
will was arrogant, no two ways about it.  people can see that.  they aren't going to vote for that.  just because the judges fawned over him, doesn't mean he deserves to stay.  someone like joshua or katee is far more deserving.
To Denise, SLC, 11:14am post; I believe Cat D once said she was 5'10" tall with heals but I can't be sure. So many of her clothes are spot on but then some are a real horror show. Was it last year's finale when she had this dress that had a fitted bodice then poofed waaaaaay out at the hips? Her hair, for the most part, needs a good brushing. I know the style is supposed to be tousled but to me, it looks a mess. A couple of weeks ago she had on a short wig, which really looked good. Then last week, the messy hair was back.

I'll also say that, as much as I liked Will, there was something lacking (personality-wise) with him but I can't put my finger on it. Technically, he was very very good and will go far in the dance world.
Give Hawaii a little less credit. We are a small state. Yes, we love our Hawaii contestants, but if they make it through, more than just Hawaii people have to be voting for them. Don't bash Jasmine or Mark. They have talent. Just because you like someone else better, that's your opinion. Don't go blaming your favorite person's booting on the "Hawaii factor."
Love, Love, Love this show.   Been watching it since season 1.  As someone previously stated, it is lacking something for me this season too, which I can't quite put my finger on.  I think I was more emotionally involve with the contestants last year, they seemed more down to earth and real.  This year they seem more prepared.  I don't care who wins from here on out.

My biggest pet peeve is the camera angles, and too many zooming in and cutting off the other dancers.  Why not just shoot it straight on and let my eye's be the editor and choose who I want to look at, and not the camera.  Everytime they change the shot I'm missing the full movement and it interfers with the flow of the routine.

Love Mia Micheals she has made me cry on more than ne occasion where I have been moved by her routines.
Dance is my absolute favorite reality show.  I have been watching since the second season when Benji won. I miss Wade Robson and Shane Sparks this year but love Tabitha and Napolean.

I was shocked when Will got voted off last week.  I figured he was a shoe in for the top 4 this year. While Mark is not the dancer will is I think America likes his personality. I know I for one have come to love his very expressive face.

I'm like most everyone else tired of hearing Mary Murphy scream too. But I think that has become her signature thing like the Hot Tamale Train and the dancers really do hope she'll scream for them.

It's a great show and I hope it stays around for a long time.
Love dancing so this show is the highlight of my viewing week. Sad (and furious) when Will was voted off and frankly did not see the 'arrogance' that many posters mention. Hated Katee when she started (shades of her 'episode' at the beginning of the show might have clouded my judgement) but think she is one of the best dancers left. Love Twitch and Joshua so I am thinking the final will be one of them and Katee. Glad Comfort is gone. On stage, good dancer but full of attitude off it. Love the judges and Cat but miss Shane Sparks.  
Not sad at all about Will leaving.  He'll have a long and illustrious career, as many people have stated.  Talent like that can't be ignored.

I am rooting for Katee to take it all the way.  The girl shines on stage and is terrific technically and dances with heart....in all genres, including Bollywood!  Chelsie, I think will come in a close second with maybe Joshua at third.  I can't wait for the finale!!!
Mary Murphy knows ballroom dancing very well, but she's given up all dignity and has become the latest TV fame who.. um, seeker.  She's on infomercials, in tv audiences, on 'Best Week Ever', hawks her own dance tape, and pops up needlessly on other reality shows.  Whoever said pairing her will Bill Mays was right on target.  If you put those two together, my tv speakers would have to be ripped out.  Muting just isn't quiet enough for them.  

Someone cannot remain an 'expert' if no one is willing to listen to your point of view.  She complains when a dancer isn't 'communicating' or getting their point across in their dancing... she should try actually communicating with her mouth sometime.

Yes, I was rooting for Will, so I'm bummed, but everyone who remains is likeable and talented.  Winning $ isn't everything.  Showcasing their talent is a big part of the show and they've all had a chance to do that



Whenever we talk about reality competitions you have to include the Conspiracy Theory, so I will add it for this year: Will was mentored and tutored by the great Debbie Allen, and as long as Will was on the show she could not choreograph or judge on the show. Now that he's gone, I'm sure we'll be seeing her in some capacity. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
I voted for Mark, and I'm not from Hawaii.  I don't really want or expect him to win, but I think the judges were way too harsh on him last week, and I think he is a very charismatic dancer.  I really loved most of his dances with Chelsie, and I hope Chelsie wins this contest.  I think she is amazing, and I would love to have a ball room dancer win.

Will has amazing talent, but not as much charisma, and the constant pimping by the judges was annoying.  I hated how they built him up and tore down poor Jessica week after week.  But I think Twitch should have gone home last week, not Will.

But remember that this is the search for Anerica's "favorite" dancer, as Nigel has said so often, and not the best dancer.  Nigel said that often enough last season when he seemed to encourage everyone to vote for Sabra, who had far less training than the amazing Danny.  



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