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Where have all the movie men gone?

Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:00 AM by Paige Newman
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So let me get this straight. In 2009, People’s Hottest Bachelor is 23-year-old Chace Crawford. And the actor most likely to star in this year’s biggest box office hit is either 19-year-old Daniel Radcliffe, in “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince,” or 23-year-old Shia LaBeouf, in “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.”

Suddenly, I feel very old. It’s as though Hollywood is trying to turn me into a cougar. And I hate that word. A lot. 

It’s even hard to watch the 44-year-old Sandra Bullock become a “cougar” opposite the 32-year-old Ryan Reynolds in "The Proposal." Compared to LaBeouf and Radcliffe, Reynolds is a grown-up. But in Hollywood, he becomes the boy to Bullock’s woman.


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Color me amazed that Shia LaBeouf can grow facial hair.

I don’t find Crawford, Radcliffe or LaBeouf attractive but I feel as though I’m “supposed” to. Even though LaBeouf is 23, he looks about 16. Watching him opposite Megan Fox, who’s a year younger than he is, is like eavesdropping on a boy going out with his babysitter. It just feels wrong. Instead of getting into the scene, I just want to protect him from this woman who could seemingly eat him alive.

Whether or not you enjoy LaBeouf as an actor, there’s something very pre-sexual about him. He could be a Jonas cousin. Even his bad-boy antics seem high school: Drinking while shopping, smoking in a non-smoking area, flipping his truck. What’s next? Staying out past curfew?

And these three are not alone. Msnbc.com film critic Alonso Duralde recently wrote a piece lamenting the lack of grown-ups in movies, but it’s not just that the new male leading men are young, it’s that they look prepubescent. Michael Cera, Emile Hirsch, Robert Pattinson, Zach Efron – is Hollywood drafting talent from a local high school?

Yes, I do take comfort in the cragginess of George Clooney, Robert Downey Jr. and Daniel Craig. I like that they have wrinkles and looked as if they’ve lived through more than a high-school pep rally.  

But even the older male actors such as Reynolds, Ashton Kutcher and Matt Damon just seem too soft. It’s why Damon wasn’t believable playing against Angelina Jolie in “The Good Shepherd.” You have to be a grown-up to play opposite Jolie. I feared for the talented but boyish James McAvoy in “Wanted.” Jolie looked as if she could toss him across the room.

And I feel for actresses like Jolie and Fox, because it seems as though Hollywood doesn’t have actors who are man enough to play opposite these women. Instead, they come off looking like Mary Kay Letourneau, regardless of the actual age of their leading men.

Has Hollywood run out of real men? Or should we be satisfied with the boys?

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I'm 34 and I don't get the hype over all these young men either.  I look at them as being "cute" as in I could have been their babysitter and look how they've grown up.....Where are the SEXY men???? I love men with a little character and a look that says I've had experience!
Real man = Gerard Butler
Thank you for speaking out for the rest of us. Not all of us want high school heroes. Give me Daniel Craig any day over Zach Efron. It's dismaying when even TV shows are intentionally skewed young, and older (god forbid, you're over 35!) characters get the boot.
I agree...none of these boy/men are going to pick up a hammer and build an escape vessel the way Harrison Ford or Tom Hanks could.  It is doubtful that most of them could even locate a hammer in a hardware store, let alone know what it is used for. Have any of them even sprouted a chest hair? When I dream of being rescued - my hero's face requires twice daily shaving; has wrinkles that honor his age; and knowing eyes that speak volumes about the wisdom that defines his character.  
Robert Redford, Harrison Ford, Sean Connery.  Other than George Clooney (and Hugh Laurie on TV), is there anyone who can fasten their bootstraps?  And let's not even go back to Gregory Peck, Jimmy Stewart, James Cagney, Cary Grant and Clark Gable!  It's time Hollywood puts talent before cutsey looks (although all the above are/were hunky chunks!) and gives us some real men on screen! I'm not going to spend money to watch some teenager or baby-faced 20-something on the screen.  It's a treasure to be changing channels on the satellite and find a gem with someone like William Hurt or Benjamin Bratt in it.  Let's get some quality acting with adult actors!
Holy crap do I agree.  Having always felt a kinship with Jolie, as I never figured female meant less than in anyway, precisely the opposite, I also never have been one for the pretty boys.  In fact the prepubescent thing annoys me alot in male actors, its like why am I supposed to care about these people?  I totally agree about Labeouf and the rest of them.  Also have been a Clooney addict for like over a decade, so I swear I almost could have written this myself, and this coming from a 26 year old.  I don't think its age that determins the author's preferences as much as quality, some women like a little man in their male fantasy figures, we're just kooks that way. :)
Paige:

I completely agree with your assessment.  Masculine movie heroes have taken a dramatic turn since I was a kid.  But the discordances you see in LaBeouf and Fox, or Jolie and McAvoy, I remember seeing in John Wayne and Katharine Hepburn, or Scarlett and Rhett, or Bogart and Bergman.

Man, I miss those moives!
Let the casting GODS be aware that it's time to stop catering to 16-20 yr olds. Someone take stock in a truly GIFTED Michael Emerson that can play MUCH more than a bad, evil psycho killer. There's a man that can take control and order!
I thnk that it's all part of the emasculation of men in our culture. Manliness and masculinity are disappearing. Men are morphing into metro-sexuals and becoming more adrogynous. They are becoming dispensible, and soon will be like the drone bees, only here for a specific function and then sent off to die. The men of the golden era of Hollywood could not make it in today's Hollywood.
I'm going to be the discordent voice in all these comments and say I don't mind looking at young pretty men, Radcliffe in particular! I'm looking forward to seeing him in something other than Potter movies but until then, i'll have to settle for that. As for the rest, time will tell. It took a while for those other guys to come out of the woodwork too.
All I have to say is that I'm 27, and I prefer George Clooney (my dream man), Robert Downey, Jr. (my fantasy/nerd crush) and Daniel Craig (one word... yummy) over any of the other men named in this article.  Hey Hollywood, get rid of the young boys, bring on the men!
Thank you someone for mentioning the classic greats.  And as Naomi demonstrated, it isn't age exclusive.  I remember still being a kid and while being nuts about both the book and movie of Gone with the Wind, I found this book with screen stills of the making of the movie and there was this particular picture of Clark Gable.  Even the memory is still very clear, and you better believe I still have the book.  Its a complexity/quality thing, there's a person, a MAN worthy there to devote your time to.  No, the baby faces bore me as there's nothing seemingly there to sink your teeth into.  A single instance onscreen by any of the good ones has more impact to me than a full movie with the baby faces.  Craig in Casino Royale when he's tied to the chair and only selective parts were visible was more of a hormonal punch than most full movies of even Matt Damon's, and I even like him.
Somebody please convince Joaquin Phoenix to come back to acting!
When I read this article and the posted comments, I can't help but laugh a little that women are now starting to go through the very thing that guys have been seeing for years. Hollywood has turned it's back on real women (with a few exceptions), and opts to cast scrawny eating-disorder victims or uninspiring plain-Jane's. I’ve often lamented the fact that well build, talented, 'Full Grown' women like Jessica Biel, Ali Landry and Selma Hiyak seem to be stuck with table scraps while the Maggie Gyllenhalls and Kirsten Dunst’s of the world pull huge rolls. Hollywood may think that a size 0 is a little on the chunky side, but I'll take Jenny Love and "her size 2 hips" over the 87lbs of supposedly hot Eliza Dusku any time.
I'm not sure I'm going to articulate this well, but I'm going to try. We left a generation home alone. Practically forcing them to raise themselves as we met the needs of our own inner child. For all the reasons that children have matured earlier, this is the result. Todays teens want to see themselves up on the silver screen and because they are a more mature bunch than they were a generation ago, Hollywood has risen to meet their needs and like it or not, this is the group that holds the purse strings because our solution to leaving our kids alone to raise themselves as we searched for ourselves is/was to throw money at them in the belief that we are giving them a better life than we had. At 50 plus, I'll skip Transformers, Twilight and their ilk. Do I wish there were more films representative of my generation? Yes. Though sadly, I'm afraid that we are and this is its legacy.
Stallone, Arnold, Van Damme, Clint, Harrison, Gibson, Connery, Wayne, Kurt Russell...man I miss there movies.
I totally agree with your post!  I do have to break out and mention that I love Ryan Reynolds - he was quite nice to look at in Wolverine...But, I do miss the "craggy"/rugged good looks of the other stars you mentioned...None of the new boys (and yes, they are boys...even though I am only 34, that is what they are to me) can stand up to George Clooney, Robert Downey Jr, Sean Connery, Hugh Jackman (where is he on your list??) and others like them.  

I also agree that the youngsters cannot hold a light to the stars of the "olden days."  I remember seeing Gone with the Wind for the first time (in junior high?) and thinking that Clark Gable was awfully nice to look at.

I think the problem is that the new class of male actors are all too pretty...I half expect them all to be wearing guy-liner...Their perfectly mussed hair is always just so...The actors we love aren't cookie cutter guys - they are the guys who have those small flaws that give them character...

I do have to wonder if any of them will improve with age...I think back to George Clooney's early days (The Facts of Life for one), and he just didn't have the same appeal then (to me, anyway)...The same holds true for Sean Connery - back in the Bond days, I think he looked OK, but he is definitely like a fine wine because he improved with age...We practically drooled over pictures of him in high school (and I graduated in 1993)...
Clive Owen, Christian Bale, even the formerly boyish looking Timothy Hutton are my ideas of men.  Also Michael Imperioli, nose & all!  (Wonder if he'd ever play Cyrano?)
I'm 21 but I kinda agree with you. The main reason is that Hollywood is an industry and they put the faces that has more sales. Check Twilight. 17 Again and that kind of movies. They are very popular for teens. That's why the industry is targeting their movies to that market putting young and fresh faces.
We need more Jeffrey Dean Morgan.  Now THERE'S a man!
Thank you, yes. Even Brad Pitt isn't "man" enough for Angelina. The sexiest man alive is still 007 Sean Connery and he is in his 70s, at least.
The only summer movie I am looking forward too is Public Enemies with Johnny Depp.  Now there is a Hollywood leading man!!!  He is way hotter than all the new and younger leading men. He is in 40's.  

Lets see the staying power of Rob, Shia and Chance in the years to come.  I predict it will not be long.  
Along with Daniel Craig, I'd add Clive Owen and Colin Firth (apparently, I have a thing for Brits).  I so agree!  I want men to look like men and not someone I used to babysit for!
We need more Nathan Fillion and Jeffery Donovan on the big screen....yummy..
I'm surprised I agree. They all look like kids and I feel old.  
Just an example, Superman Returns was ridiculous.  He was nothing the man Christopher Reeve was in the original.  I was looking at a boy trying to save the world.  He just couldn't carry the role.  Christopher Reeve was young when he first did the role, but he looked like a hulk of a man.  I don't want to watch a boy do a man's job.  It's just inane.
Hollywood has such extreme double standards:  for an actress to succeed, she must be drop dead gorgeous; for a man--it just doesn't seem to matter much what he looks like.  There are mostly rather ordinary looking leading men (Sean Penn, for example); or they are the baby-faced brats described in the article. Where are the handsome, talented actors between 30 and 60 out there?  I can only think of a few, like Keanu Reeves and Richard Gere. Where are actors that act their age and don't stay boys just to compete with todays youngsters--Matthew McConaughey comes to mind, here.  Out there somewhere, there must be handsome, mature, strong (in character), age appropriate men to play opposite actresses like Bullock, Anniston, Roberts, Streep and Jolie.  Gentlemen, please step up, and Hollywood, please take note:  bring back the handsome, sophisticated, masculine, gentlemanly leading man!  You will have us in lines at the theatre waiting to see the next Hollywood heart-throb!!
I totally agree but I have always been more drawn to the rougher bad boys than the pretty boys. My choices: Gerard Butler, Hugh Laurie, Hugh Jackman, David Boreanaz (pretty but manly), and of course Sean Connery.
But as others have said, it's the younger crowd who are going out and paying the inflated prices for a new release movie with popcorn, drinks, etc. The "slightly" older crowd tend to wait until it comes out on DVD before they see a movie because they are too busy with career & family to catch it at the theater.
Where's Clark Gable when you need him?  Now he was all man!
Jude Law.  
Johnny Depp (w/o the makeup & pirate-stuff)
Katie Spring's mention of "guyliner" made me think of another one--Lost's gorgeous Richard Alpert (Nestor Carbonell)!
I totally agree with this post.  I like the Harry Potter movies, but I also enjoyed the book. The story and how the characters evolved is what sparked my interest, nothing to do with attraction to the actor. I rarely if ever go to the movies anymore, they even have television geared that way. My example is Mark Harmon, I have watched him for years, and I find him even more hot & sexy with the graying hair then he was say in the day of Summer School (and he was pretty hot then too) And even if you do go to one of these geared toward the younger set movies these little girls are giggling and screaming for the star. I find myself watching the older movies, anything with Steve McQueen, I even watched the Towering Inferno because he was in it.  I was a young teenager when that movie came out..We need more George Clooney's, Sean Connerys, Daniel Craigs, Sean Bean.. These guy have substance plus they're really good to look at...
I'm 65 and love looking at these "men" but there is an age limit that does the turning on - Clive Owen, Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Henry Cavell (The Tudors) they are on the younger side but can only get better with age. New series starts tonight with James Purefoy (from Rome series) - he is a good bad boy and looks great in a tunic - those Brits certainly have it going for them - Colin Firth - yummy.
after reading all of the previous comments, I gotta agree with a few of them...

Hugh Laurie - love, love, love him, he looks like a man who has truly lived! So sexy

Clive Owen -  nuff said

Daniel Craig

and my sweet-faced (ie cannot be lumped in with these craggy, worldly men) weakness is Nathan Fillion, yum.

Less than 20 years ago we were snarkily dismissing the "high schoolers" of "Beverly Hills 90210" and "Dawson's Creek" because they were really 20-something actors playing teens.  Now the tide has turned and we're putting baby-faced youngsters in adult roles.

Some of these young men, Daniel Radcliffe in particular, are good actors and can be quite charming in interviews, but that makes me feel like a creepy old cougar (yes, I despise that word as well) at the age of 44.  Let me see that devilish twinkle in George Clooney's eyes or the knowing furrow of Daniel Craig's brow any day over those toddlers!
Thank goodness I'm not the only one that thinks this! These little boys look like they would cry if they mussed their hair or cut their finger. I don't find them attractive or interesting in any way.
hugh jackman, jeffrey dean morgan, robert downey jr, viggo mortenson, daniel craig, denzel washington, clive owen, george clooney, christian bale, josh duhamel, luke wilson, liev schrieber, ewan macgregor, gerard butler.....i could go on and on. i don't think there's any shortage of leading men - are all of them of (or even close to) bogart or stewart or peck or connery caliber? no. are many of them close? oh yes. some just need experience, and they'll be the stars that two generations from now will be iconic.
My first movie-star crush was the late, great Paul Newman, and as far as I'm concerned, all other leading men should be measured against Mr. Newman's great looks and presence (which he never lost!). I like what Melissa of Houston said: on the screen, I don't want leading men to look like they just started shaving!
Real men in movies today:  Hugh Jackman, Gerard Butler, Jeffrey Dean Morgan.  Up and coming:  Jensen Ackles.  Here's a guy who can play young and still be masculine.  He could handle Megan Fox.
Okay, I get what all of you are saying about having a little more "MAN" in your man but some of the men you are referencing are dinosaurs or dead! Maybe the actors we are forced to watch these days are not as old as you but isn't that part of the fun? I would rather watch a hot young man strut his stuff on the big screen then try to remember how hot Sean Connery used to be. We each have our time in the sun and when it's over, it's over. We all have to step aside and let the young have thier's.
A baby face is just not sexy to me and i dont like all those bubble gum movies either I want to see some real grown up men on the screen. Anything movie with johnny depp gets my money now he is a sexy man.
I'm 27, and my biggest TV crush today has to be Hugh Laurie from "House".  I mentioned that to my mother, and she asked, "isn't he a little old for you?" but I don't care.  There's something about his well-lined face, life-weary attitude, and incredible medical genious that I can't get enough of.  A 20-year-old could never pull that off, no matter how great an actor he is.  Sure, those boys are fun to look at, but there's something about lusting over young men who appear on the cover of Tiger Beat (does that still exist?) or some other teenie bopper magazine full of tear-out posters that just feels dirty...
Two words: Gary. Oldman.
Growing up, Clark Gable was affectionately known as "Clarkey-Baby" in our house - my mom's favorite! Mom's a smart lady - his bad-boy good looks still light up the screen decades later, and now I have Clooney as my version!  I find that salt & pepper hair and a handsome face that shows some wrinkles upon smiling much better than the baby-faced stars of today. That being said, I wish I saw more of my childhood hearthrob - John Cusack - on the screen. Wish he'd reprise Lloyd Dobler in a grown up version of "Say Anything"!!  :)
Oh E I agree completely!!! Nathan Fillion is YUMMY!! His new school is great, he is intelligent and hot, not a bad combo!
I have to admit a crush on guys like Sean Connery, Patrick Stewart and whoever played the Admiral on JAG... mmmmm older balding men :) Or rather strong, experience mature GROWN UPS!! There is a reason so many girls have daddy complexes... they don't see matural adult men anywhere!
How could someone be a "hottest bachelor" if I couldn't pick them out of a lineup? I'm 30 and keep up with quite a bit of entertainment news, but I've seen NOTHING he's ever been in. That title should be left for someone much more well known to the masses, not some young fry on the CW (it is the CW, right? Some of the younger girls I work with tell me he's on Gossip Girl. I don't watch that network because I'm not 14 so I don't know).
What happened to the Man's Man, Men that men wanted to be...
Sam Elliot, now there's a man.  Women love him and men want to be him, or
Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, Al Pacino, Gene Hackman, Viggo Mortenson, Ed Harris, Tom Selleck, Johnny Depp, Harrison Ford, Bogart, Brando, Brosnan and Bronson, DeNiro, these men are hot and they can actually ACT!!
Di - how did i forget John Cusack on my list? i must have been half asleep - lloyd dobler forever <3

also - jake ryan (16 candles) - actor was Michael Schoeffling. He doesn't act anymore, but I am willing to bet that he is an attractive guy, and would have turned into quite the leading man if he had stuck around.
does anyone remember Ricardo Montelbon?? And how about Benicio Del Toro?
Felt compelled to add my bit here - you didn't mention Robert Redford enough! Robert Redford, Robert Redford, Robert Redford!!! Other 'real' men? what about Goran Visnjic, Max Beesley, Damien Lewis, William H Macey, Denzil Washington - just to name a few hunky, chunky males who are also very good actors!


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