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Elizabeth Ditty, Kansas City, Mo. — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:50:48 GMT

I think it's important to point out that the condition of the humans in the movie is different than just being overweight. It's been hundreds of years since humans left earth and were slotted into the lifestyle portrayed in the film.

If you're stuck in a chair from the moment you can hold your head up, certainly that's going to affect your physiology. The evolution of the captains' pictures from what we recognize as "normal" to the roundness of the humans hundreds of years later serves as a clue to the fact that people were simply born into the increasingly sedentary lifestyle depicted into the film. If you've never known anything different ("I didn't know we had a pool!"), it's hard to know what to do to change.

And yet, the film points out that, despite having the evolutionary cards stacked against you, you can still go against the status quo and save the world, so to speak. When put back in their natural habitat, the humans quickly figured out what was necessary to survive and thrive.

Looking at the film as a pot shot against overweight people is both lazy and disappointing, as is assigning a political agenda to the movie. Wall-E isn't about the mess; it's about not giving up hope when you find yourself in one.

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pixar, NY — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:58:16 GMT

You people take things way too seriously. If you feel bad about yourself leaving the movie, then that's your own personal issues.

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Joe DeCamillis, Birmingham, AL — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:10:35 GMT

Well said Elizabeth Ditty!!! You hit the nail squarely on the head (and drove one into the Coffin). I cast my Oscar vote for Best Picture (of the decade).

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Camilo Chicago — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:12:46 GMT

The message of Wall•E is the indictment of human nature. We're basically lazy beasts and take the path of least resistance. Given the chance to loll about in levitating loungers, almost all will. Every person had a choice as to whether or not to excercize and eat well but not a one did. The same extended to mindless consumerism and subsequent pollution. It's easier to not do anything about it.
This got my nine-year old thinking and asking questions. He spends less time in front of the computer now and actually asked me if I wanted to go for a walk. Thank you, Pixar.

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MJ, PA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:12:58 GMT

Well said Elizabeth. It is a fantastic movie. Probably the best Pixar has ever done.

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Katie somewhere USA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:21:13 GMT

IT'S A KIDS MOVIE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!! This is why adults don' get kids movies - because they try to make it something it's not. Besides, what is wrong with getting children to look at how they treat their bodies and their Earth? Shouldn't we want our children to be better people than we are now? I think people who were offended by WALL-E were offended because they felt convicted about their own gluttony and wastefulness. It wasn't a movie about global warming at all. It was a movie about people who had lost their way and gave up, but one person had hope that their course could be corrected. I thought it was a great movie and that it was right on in its message.

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Alex, Everett, Wash — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:23:12 GMT

When I saw the humans at the ship being carried and overweight I frankly got scared. Really scared. I believe we are on our way to do that with all the technology and the culture of spending like getting our stimulus check so we can go and buy stuff.
I have never seen a movie that told me to go and do some exercise.

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Alan Dean Foster — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:32:11 GMT

With all the wonderful attention to detail in the movie, I'd like to know how Stanton et al managed to overlook the fact that the little plant in that sealed refrigerator somehow survives in the total absence of sunlight (hint: there's an out, but it's not shown).

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Shawn Fetz, Indianapolis, Ind — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:32:32 GMT

I saw this movie with my 2 year old and while she did fall asleep, it was nap time, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I would have been happy with it being left just a simple love story without much human portrayal at all like it started out. The left and right leaning folks will see what they want to see, either global warming and materialism to it's utter extreme or a global government that takes care of your every need ala communism.
The obese people dipicted in the movie are the result of generations of a sendentary life of sitting in front of a screen all your life and drinking your food having every need met by servants.
While this movie shows a sad future for humans, it does present hope of a kick start, in the form of a robot of all things.
Today we are at a crossroads, we can continue down the path presented in WALL-E of less personal interaction, less work, less motivation to care for oneself, more excess, more waste or begin again to take care of ourselves, our families, our business our world, and our lives.

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Eddy Fernandez Jr, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:39:41 GMT

As an overweight person, I picked up the overweight theme immediately. But as a space buff, I felt like an ignorant fool in that one tiny scene where they describe how microgravity reduces bone mass and could lead to those overweight types of people. Watch a little closer next time, you'll see. It's one of the scenes with Fred Willard.

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sharonl7340, Grant, AL — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:46:45 GMT

It was a lovely movie and I was fortunate enough to sit beside a family that included a young lady with Down's Syndrome. I had the extra treat of watching her genuine reactions to this wonderful film. It took her from laughter to tears to pure joy--what a treat! I loved the movie from beginning to end and loved watching this young lady root for Wall-E and Eve.

I especially loved the spoofs of Star-Wars and other movies. You could see the Emperor trying to turn Luke to the Dark Side near the end of the film. I also vote for Best Film!

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Joe Snofool, Atlanta, GA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:46:55 GMT

Amazing how any opinion that isn't yours, Ms. Newman, is "downright silly." I found the movie thematically deplorable and, beyond that, having little entertainment value (I think I chuckled twice). I deeply regret the money I threw away on it.

This is without doubt a global warming propaganda flick. If you can't see that, or don't believe it, then you are under control of the left. Pixar is capable of, and has produced, much better entertainment without preaching the sermon of the politically (in)correct leftists.

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Brenda, Harlingen, TX — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:49:28 GMT

Some viewers may have missed that several-second 'message' from the CEO of the mega-worldwide store that started the whole mess...that a long time in artificial gravity WILL alter skeletal strength and cause bone loss - in this scene, the Captain then looked down at his rounded bare feet.

While all of the people were carted around on hovering barkaloungers (sp), and fed pre-mixed nutrient foods, I for one, did not see any message on gluttony, but rather the scenes seemed to reiterate the length of time of the Cruise which had gone from a 5-year one to several hundred years.

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Stan DeCwikiel, Chicago, IL — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:50:23 GMT

As an overweight person - and I mean, obese, not just someone who looks in the mirror and says "Do these jeans make me look fat?", I had the same reservation about the appearance of the long-gone humans. I think the movie kind of speaks both ways - if you live long enough in a chair, if you're inactive and adicted to your cell phones and flat-screens, you're gonna be a couch potato, BUT not all hope is lost. It is a little harder for me, but I agree (though I am pretty sure genetics come into play here).

But the REAL political message here is that consumerism is affecting our quality of life, and that quick-fixes and problem avoidance are catching up to us. By 2110, we may well have to flee our planet. The Glenn Becks and George Bushes of the world can hem and haw and say we wont change until someone proves we're destroying the earth, but just as the portly ship's captain did, so must we. We must make the individual effort to effect the correction of climate as best we can, and continue to press the nay-sayers to open their minds, and not just consume us into non-existence.

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Heather B R, Cville, VA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:50:42 GMT

WALL-E is hardly the first movie/story to depict the evolutionary downfall of mankind and the notion of a "dying earth". Look no further than one of the more famous (and original) examples of the genre, The Time Machine, by H.G. Wells, as an early example of the same concept.

I think anyone who sees this movie as a wake-up call for humanity needs to get off their butt and open their eyes. This "wake-up" call has been around for over a hundred years, just like the environmental movement.

Nevertheless, WALL-E is one of the best movies to come out of Hollywood in a long time. The characters, storyline, and animation are superb. It's clever and heartfelt, and that's about the best anyone could hope to get from the price of a movie ticket.

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BK, PA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:57:49 GMT

I didn't find the movie entertaining or even thougth-provoking. It was just a vehicle to sell products and video games to small children.

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Melissa S — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:58:29 GMT

I think it should be noted that astronauts lose bone mass in space, and that astronauts are limited to the number of missions that they can go on in space because it is (to date) irreversible back on earth. Thus, whether or not the movie was making a statement about the increasingly sedentary lifestyle of humans (a statement I think it was trying to make), they were accurately depicting what scientific evidence suggests would happen if humans did have to live in space for a prolonged amount of time. With the loss of bone density, you would not be able to exercise to keep that type of weight off. Add to that the fact that they did not have the resources to eat healthy (no plant life on the ship or on Earth), and you end up with people who cannot exercise eating processed "space food" and becoming overweight.

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Ray, Cincinnati — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:58:48 GMT

The movie seems to please adults more than kids. My kids 11, 8, 6 & 3 thought that it was borring. This was due to the lack of dialogue. I have gotten the same from other parents. None of the wonderful back and forth of previous Pixar movies. They will not be asking to see this over and over like others. This may hurt the Disney profit machine on sales of all things WALL-E.

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KCM, Worcester MA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:01:48 GMT

Coffin and Beck are trolls with their own agendas. WALL-E is a love story encased in a warm cocoon of satire of consumer excess and human foibles. The knee-jerk response of conservative pundits is to vilify anything that might criticize consumerism, question over-reaching businesses, promote conservation (instead of spending), or point out some of the less attractive aspects of our American way of life. They might as well be publicists for the fictional BnL Corporation in the film (check out the BnL website -- hilarious).

WALL-E carries on a proud tradition of books and films that imagine bleak futures based upon our current circumstances. Is it accurate? Probably not, but who knows what our Earth will look like 700 years from now? Is it a fair extrapolation of the possible consquences of our society? Most definitely.

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Laurie Glasson, Springfield, MO — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:05:58 GMT

Funny because what I got out of the movie is that when we fill ourselves up with junk food, inane work and mindless living we're missing out on what's really important, life and love. Kudos to the conservative wanks who are able to see through something so beautiful and make it hate filled, yet again. Most everyone I've talked to has seen the amazing things that can be created even when you start off with junk. Ta Dah!

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Leslie, NM — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:21:05 GMT

Well let me begin by saying I found it to be a charming movie, and it was the least snore inducing movie in the "animated family movie" genre I've seen in a long time. And I thought if anything it was a cautionary tale about consumerism and becoming too dependent on technology (neither of which can be called startling new themes.) So I have to say I was a little shocked by the right-wing response as you called it. As Heather from VA pointed out, these warnings aren't new, nor is it the first time they've been marketed in a medium that children will readily access.
I'm guessing these are the same people that decried "The Golden Compass" as evil without realizing that Milton had long ago beaten the world to that particular flavor of heresy.

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Natalie, AZ — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:24:28 GMT

I read an interview with one of the people involved in the movie (I think it was the director) and he said he originally wanted to make the people blobs, but that he didn't think the audience would be able to relate to that as human.

I find the arguments against the "message" silly, too; but I'm the type of mom who lets my child watch "The Golden Compass" and follow it up with "Narnia", which I'm sure makes the same people who don't like Wall-E for it's message gasp. To each their own, I guess.

I think it's interesting that most people who hate it for it's environmental message (why all the hate towards being kind to our planet?), fail to realize that Pixar has always put some kind of subtle message in their movies. Just like Disney.

I thought Wall-E was a lovely movie. I went in expecting the second half to be mediocre and found the entire thing to be positively charming. Pixar is world class.

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L.J. Janik — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:26:20 GMT

Who is Glenn Beck? Why should I care what he thinks?

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Natalie, AZ — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:27:21 GMT

To Ray in Cincinatti - believe it or not, my four year old LOVED it, but I do think it was made to appeal to adults more than any Pixar movie in the past. I've actually had a hard time finding any Wall-E merchandise and I have to wonder if it's because Disney intentionally didn't put out much.

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Tom C. Livonia, Mi — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:40:19 GMT

Joe Snofool: Yes, you are!

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Jeff, Toronto, ON — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:40:22 GMT

I thoroughly enjoyed Wall E both for its creativity and smart story. Yes, it might be said that it carries certain messages behind it but these messages are certainly not destructive even if they do lean to the left. For those conservatives out there, you obviously have the right to your opinion and if you're dead set against the Wall E "propaganda" then obviously you aren't going to be affected by it. How could making healthier lifestyle choices be a bad thing anyway? Oh, and as to the bone loss question, I believe that bone loss occurs in space because of the zero-G environment. The ship in the movie had gravity control of some sort - hence, Pixar got that a little wrong as I see it. Here's to being more open to the opinions of other in the future!

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Joe Hare, Springfield, PA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:41:53 GMT

I guess you could get just about any "message" from this movie that you wanted. I can understand everyone's view about what they thought the "message" was, even though I don't agree with them. Although I view myself as a conservative, I don't agree that Pixar had nefarious plot intentions with regards to global warming or the evils of mankind.

Sure, there is a warning message here; we are consuming far more than what we need, and we produce so much junk that just gets thrown away, with no place for it to go. I mean, really, where do you recycle and old Rubik's cube anyway?

I viewed the movie differently, from a much more positive perspective. The positive message here is that no matter how bad everything gets, there is still hope. No matter what your physical attributes or deformities are, you CAN make a difference. Every life, whether it be human, or robotic, matters. It was the so-called mal-functioning robots that saved the day, not the perfectly-formed automatons. And, it was a rather hefty person who, deciding that enough was enough, saved the day. The whole movie kind of had that "frog in the boiling water" theme.

So I say, get off your duffs, turn off the anti-social gadgets also known as the boob-tube, the Wii, X-box, game-boy, game cube, and your cell-phone/text messaging devices and get some exercise and actually talk to people. Walk over to the fence and talk to your neighbor, don't just text-message him. Sit on his front porch and not in his on-box. Don't just sit there, do something!

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Steven — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:43:17 GMT

You're being way over sensitive. Its that kind of parental attitude that allows kids to gain weight, talk back to adults, and cry themselves a river everytime things don't go their way. America is the best country in the world, but we have to re-learn the idea that parents lead kids, not the other way around.

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Luke, Pleasant Grove, Utah — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:45:59 GMT

It has always been my experience that those who immediately become defensive and attack something that might be (remotely) implicating them...is because the movie hit a nerve and it's a defense mechanism. Those who think this movie is about global warming and human obesity and flip out and begin attacking...look at yourself. Are you overweight? Are you driving a Hummer and living in a mansion? Bet there's more yes's than no's in that crowd.
This is a wonderful movie with adorable characters (Whoa!). The cinematics are beautiful (space scenes) and the story line is great. Don't get hung up on the destroyed earth and overweight humans. See past your own ignorance and see the story that is truly there. The found love. The refound independance. The reclamation of who we are. The determination of us to change what we see wrong.
Thanks, Pixar and wonderful article.

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Zane Rodnick-Smith, Austin, TX — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:47:24 GMT

Is it odd that all the smart, intelligent, and thought provoking movies I've seen lately have been children's movies?

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Kevin, Nashua, NH — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:59:52 GMT

My wife and I did find the movie preachy, and I guarantee all that we are the last people in the world to be considered 'conservative'! That said, it wasn't just the overweight issue. In fact, everyone seems to miss the more important (to us) issues: The people aren't just overweight - they don't DO ANYTHING. They don't occupy themselves with anything interesting. The captain could barely read the title of the book! Their minds were falling apart more than their bodies.

Another problem was that the humans seemed to learn NOTHING. Over the centuries had anything changed? Nope. The big machines that nearly destroy Wall-E and company are actually bigger versions OF Wall-E (look for it next time, they have the same name). Human's have not learned to recycle .. they still are vast consumers that toss away whatever. (The movie conveniently overlooks the problems of living this lifestyle in space.)

So if there is a message that we can get better, I didn't see it. All I saw is how bad we will get, and that we can build probes that think a cockroach isn't a lifeform when a seedling is.

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bm — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:14:50 GMT

As soon as I saw the barcoloungers, I wondered what the large man in the seat behind me was wondering.

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Matthew, TX — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:17:03 GMT

Wall-E is not just a movie for kids! I'm in college, and being too young to have kids, I saw it with my older sister and her husband. We thought it was a great movie!
Also, I'm SICK of hearing people claim that saving the enviroment is "left-wing" propaganda. Taking care of the enviroment does NOT mean that you have to hug a tree every time you see one; it is simply being responsible and cleaning up after yourself. There was a time before cell phones, computers, and cars(Really?!). And guess what? People survived becaused they walked to places and ate what was available! They didn't travel in enormous SUV's and eat fattening foods from McDonald's. The Earth is a beautiful place (for those of you who haven't left your couch and TV) and being eco-friendly simply means taking care of it! How about I walk into your home and leave my trash all over the floor and pour carbon dioxide into it?
Again, Wall-E was a brilliant movie and a nice nod towards the Charlie Chaplin era.

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Alex, Fredericksburg, Va. — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:21:57 GMT

Does anyone see the irony in a movie that will gross hundreds of millions in merchandising plastic toys, DVDs and Video games (all of which takes decades to decompose) warning us about the future fate of mankind? C'mon folks its a kids movie, toys don't talk, Penguins don'r dance and rats mak terrible cooks. And yes...I'm a Republican. The movie was good but not Pixars best.

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Dave, Leesburg Virginia — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:27:23 GMT

Funny how the debate has turned into 'save the earth' and 'people are fat' while completely missed were some of the more subtle barbs that were put out there. Anyone remember the scene where the two people were discussing golf on their 'always on and in your face' commuications devices (did someone say 'Blackberry')? Did anyone happen to notice once they panned the scene out how the two were right next to each other on their floating lounges? I don't know about you, but the Washington Post ran a story once about a 'blended' family (think Brady Bunch) that communicated with each other better over IM WHILE IN THE SAME HOUSE than they did face to face.

Did anyone catch the subtle political satire in the 'Try Blue,it's the new Red' comment? With all the talk of turning 'Red' states to 'Blue' states in this upcoming election, it makes you wonder if they were poking fun at all of the political lemmings we have in our country today.

Why oh why do we have to take something that is arguably one of the best pieces of modern fiction and turn it into a debate on political correctness? It just doesn't make any sense to me, especially when people will beat up a movie that doesn't have a story, a message, or a plot. Just because it's rated 'G' and animated doesn't mean it shouldn't make adults think. Pixar had the audacity to make an animated film that didn't have to resort to bodily functions or crudeness to make people think about something. Wow...sue them. If you think 'animation' should equate to 'dumbed down', go right to the door of your multiplex and see 'Space Chimps' or 'Kung Fu Panda' and I'll gladly fill your empty chair watching Wall-E again.

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James, Boston, MA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:42:17 GMT

To the science geeks who say that bone loss was due to living in a weightliss environment, the ship had artificial gravity... (or was the pool covered with plastic wrap?)

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DM, Maineville, OH — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:45:39 GMT

Took two of my grandchildren to see it and when we left, the 5 year old said she didn't like. When I asked her why, she stated, "I didn't want to watch a movie about garbage, everyone knows you're suppose to put it in the can." Myself, I thought the movie didn't live up to its hype. Cartoons for kids are suppose to be cute, funny and magical, and talked about for a long time afterwards. My grandchildren haven't said a word about it since we went to see it. Looks like Pixar was trying to send a message to the adults, because the younger kids don't care about stuff like that. Besides, it's up to the parents to teach the kids. I felt I wasted my money on an environmental cartoon. Americans get it, but most just choose not to do anything about it. Instead of spending 50 bucks at the movies, I could have waited and rented it for 4 bucks at home. I like a treat every now and then, but I also like one that, when I pay that much for it, should be enjoyable. And people need to get over their sensitivies for pete's sake! The way this country is going with all the discrimination do's and dont's, we will soon not be known as the land of the 'free' anymore because everything we do, make, say, insinuate, might offend someone! Don't get me wrong, we do need limits and boundries,-- disabilities, race, age, gender, religious and political beliefs,--- but fattness, whatever! If it offends fat people, do something about it! I am about 40 lbs overweight myself, but I realize it is my responsiblity to do something about it, not the publics. Alas, question to ponder, if as a result of space life, all the people were herded into an extremely sendentary and indulgent lifestyle, then when did the procreation of the babies happen? Or better yet how? hmmmmmmmm......

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Melissa, Lake Worth, FL — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:48:14 GMT

My husband and I cracked up when the lounger-fatties floated on the screen slurping their meals.

Both of my kids (5 & 7) absolutely loved it.

Well done, Pixar. One of your best.

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Allen Boyd, State College, PA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:51:39 GMT

Why is it that any media that questions our "I need more stuff" lifestyle becomes automatically labeled by some as Liberal Propoganda? Can anyone truly believe that with close to 7 BILLION people on the planet, we're having no effect? Already the politically charged buzz-word "Global Warming" is being used without second thought; yet Earth as depicted in WALL-E looked to have been made uninhabitable after being choked with garbage, not temperature change. If people from any political leaning think that overconsumerism is just more unAmerican alarmist theory, here's a quick fact: From 1980 to 2006 the national personal savings rate went from 10% of income after taxes to negative 0.4%. In short, more goes out than comes in for a lot of people.

I've seen tangible evidence of overconsumption right here in my hometown of State College, home to PSU. In the past 10 years: Two Wal-Mart Supercenters have opened within 10 miles of one another, at least 4 luxury housing developments with 5,000+ sq. ft. homes have appeared, 3 new shopping centers have blossomed, and a Home Depot is set to open this month directly across an intersection from a Lowes. All this in a county containing around 140,000 permanent residents.

To those who see nothing but political propaganda in WALL-E, take a few seconds to go look in the garage, attic, basement, etc. Then multiply that by the rest of the households in the U.S. How much of it is unquestionably necessary, and where will most of it ultimately end up?

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Chris, Charlotte NC — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:54:04 GMT

hopefully it will get some of these kids to get up and do something active.

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MJ, PA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:56:03 GMT

Let's not forget that this is probably the last movie Pixar can make without interference from its new parent compnay, Disney. So this may be the last movie they make that actually starts discussions like this. Disney would never let a movie with potentially offensive (to anyone) themes get released. Too bad.

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anna, LA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:58:52 GMT

I agree with everyone saying that adults often search for hidden darker meanings in KID'S MOVIES.

I was young then, but was there this much controversy over Fern Gully??

Stop saying it's some ridiculous propaganda for global warming, it's about TRASHING OUR PLANET, which is a very scary reality. Where do you think all of our trash goes once we're on the space shuttle? We blast it off into space. So, not only are we cluttering our own planet, we're doing it to space too.

This movie is about love, hope, and believing in yourself. Stop focusing on your own insecurities as far as your weight and the environment is concerned. I hardly think the overweight children felt guilty or ashamed, when the Captain in the movie was trying to get back home to take care of Earth!

Get out there and do something, make a difference, stop sitting on your couch!

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Carrie Gorringe, Kirkland WA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:02:09 GMT

It's rather ironic that the same ideologues who moan endlessly about our so-called failure to teach our children about the positive aspects of Western culture appear to have missed their appearance in WALL-E. Even more embarrassing is the fact that it's -- of all things -- a Christian reference, or, rather, one of several. After WALL-E is crushed by the machine in his efforts to save the plant, EVE desperately tries to save him by taking him back to earth. While she is holding the broken body of WALL-E, the camera zooms in and stops momentarily on them both. Anyone even remotely familiar with Renaissance art will recognize the similarity between that image and Michelangelo's PIETA, the heart-rending statue of Mary holding the broken body of Jesus (although WALL-E is lying to the right in EVE's arms instead of to the left, the resemblance between both is unmistakable, and other parallels between the robot and the Christian savior follow: both are shunned by established authority, each has to die in order to save humanity and is then resurrected, etc.). EVE's name alone should have given the game away to those who claim extensive knowledge of the Bible. Moreover, any Christian who is offended by the portrayal of the humans as lazy and wasteful in the film has apparently forgotten how many times humans are portrayed in the Bible as having fallen into states of "wickedness" and have to be forcibly made to see reason (killing the very planet upon which you rely for life itself through the deadly sin of sloth definitely qualifies as wickedness in Biblical terms).
It is a very sad day for our culture when those who claim to be its most devout defenders utterly miss such obvious references to one of its most fundamental works -- and the lessons it contains.

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Pixar Formula — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:02:15 GMT

This 'article' (really an almost illiterate half-formed thought dump which we call a blog) points out exactly the type of person that Wall-E appeals to: smug, tired, self-important people who only want to see negative stereotypes about Americans repeated over and over so they can chuckle and guffaw about how superior they are. Oh, it satirizes fat people! That's never been done before! That's so clever!

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Shirley Mohr Smithton, Il — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:05:13 GMT

My husband just sent me this article....I'm really sorry that such a movie could bring up so much hate and remarks that are so negative....Have you seen the listing of other movies? If we can start finding things negitive about Disney family movies we are in trouble. There isn't many Movies that you can take your family to see now days. This movie had a message for all ages. I truly believe we must not look at the weight issue here,it wasn't all about that. Try your best to look beyond this if you can. Our God given planet is getting all used up and we waste more than we will ever use. I think this movie was a great eye opener for most of us. People, no matter your age or size, you can do something now about our Planet. We need to be more like WALL-E, and wake up! Take the good message here,it's not about weight.....it's about loving and caring enough that you stand on your own two feet and fight for what is right and good for our planet and our life. Turn off the TV, computer and video games and take a look at our life styles, our fighting, our waste,and the damage we are doing to our home. If it takes an animated love story to help us to understand and see the world in a different light, then I'm all for it. If you haven't seen the Movie yet, please go. My husband,grandchildren and I truly enjoyed the story.
We can't wait for a "WALL- E and Eva Part 2!!! "

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Linda, Torrance Californis — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:06:34 GMT

The movie does not mention global warning at all. It addresses pollution and unhealthy habits. I'm a political non-partisan, and it's interesting to observe how conservatives classify all environmental issues as one big pile of global warming hysteria. The mere suggestion in an animated picture that corporate consumerism may not be the best thing for all of us is tantamount in their minds to proclaiming Al Gore as king of the universe. So, I wouldn't expect a lot of love from conservatives here. Give it another generation. Meanwhile, I enjoyed the movie and am looking forward to seeing it again.

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Amy Portland, Oregon — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:14:33 GMT

All of my family loved this movie and I think that each of us gained some important perspective from it as well. After the movie we discussed the importance of being in touch with not only the world around us, to keep the planet healthy, but also in touch with the humans around us, to keep the connections within our families and friends alive and real. We have learned new ways to keep our lives more environmentally friendly. We are spending more time outdoors and less time in front of computers and video games. We have dinner together without the TV on and actually speak to one another about our days. I think WALL E had many important messages, but it was not aimed at making fat people feel bad about themselves! It was about learning to reach out and help yourself as well as the planet and those around you no matter how the odds may be set against you.

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Husker_Mama — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:29:08 GMT

WALL*E is indeed one of the most subtle movies I've seen in a while. I've done a lot of thinking, & I firmly believe that the future protrayed in this movie could just very well happen & that scares the ever-livin' crap outta me!! Before seeing how people live in this potential future, I was very close to being one of those humans ... de-evolving back into the shape of a slug. I've made a concious decision to get out & get moving. Yeah ... I've got a desk job, but I reorganized my office so I HAVE to get up from my desk, & to do it quite frequently.
This is one movie that I will forgo a tank of gas for to purchase when it's released on DVD.

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Corrina, Portland ME — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:36:06 GMT

I wonder if the outrage isn't actually about the morals of the film, but rather that humans, especially good old Americans, weren't the heroes. How dare a robot have more sense and guts than the guy who bought the presidency? I can completely see why they're outraged. And why they're trying to turn the PC police against the film (and do their dirty work for them) by claiming discrimination, or worse, an attempt to hurt people's feelings.

Here's the reality - if you feel like you've been self-implicated by this movie, great, then change your life and make yourself a better person. Don't assume that prickle up your spine is a manipulation - it's recognition and it's your turn to make your world a better place.

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Mat Henn, Austin, TX — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:39:26 GMT

I often wondered what the society thought about this movie and I agree with a lot of things said. I believe there are hidden meanings that we need to understand about the world we live in. Every movie you watch has a meaning to it, if there is no meaning then what a waste of time.

As for hidden meanings, I thought it was interesting to see how the world would turn out if the Bee's stopped pollinating would bring the end of life as we know it in "Bee Movie".

This movie also depicts the ease of getting what you want in our society. You want that soda, order it and they will deliver it to you. I also agree with Parents need to lead their kids and not the other way around.

Great article, I was pleased to read it.

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Minnesota Muddy — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:42:27 GMT

This was a great movie that went right over my niece and her boyfriends head! (Both 20 years old) Ladies and Gentleman we are in big trouble when these kids are running the world someday. Thank god we have Europeans and Asian families raising their kids in an environment that supports rational, cleaner, smarter thinking & living. Here in the US we just teach our kids to consume consume consume, and pollute pollute pollute, and then they complain when the money runs out! Gotta love the George Bush generation that has been created here. We're in big trouble unless we make some serious changes as people and as a nation.

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Joe Mama — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:53:42 GMT

Let's not forget the main point about this movie... It's incredibly boring. Pixar did not live up to it's history of fantastic movies with this one at all. Message or no message.

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Lynn, Charleston, SC — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:01:43 GMT

I recall another movie with cute robots and a dim view of humanity's ability to manage its resources...Silent Running. IMNO, one of the greatest sci-fi movies ever.

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Rich, Chino Hills, CA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:02:23 GMT

If it takes a family movie to get across that we are slowly destroying our planet and becoming self-absorbed, techno-junkies, then it's fine with me. I'm not jumping in with the global warming freaks (the film makes no mention of temperature) but you don't have to talk about global warming to understand that, for the most part, we are slowly using up the natural resources of this planet. Eventually, we will use up these resources and have to relocate or die. This will take hundreds of years, perhaps, but by then many folks may truly be plugged-in from birth into their barco-floaters and devoid of human contact. Just look at the rising obesity rates, worldwide. Look at our addiction to technology, gadgets, internet, and mass communication. Is this really that much of a leap of faith or suspension of disbelief?

Lastly, anyone who calls this film a treatise, manifesto, or left-wing propaganda of any kind has an axe to grind, column to sell, or a voice career where they are paid to see fire where there is smoke. People like that should be avoided anyway, so pay no heed. Is it leftist to have your mind stimulated rather than entertained or to provoke some thought rather than feed it cool-aid? If so, you are just the kind of barco-floater they parody.

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Carl, Kalamazoo Michigan — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:06:51 GMT

What bothered me about the movie was the presence of gravity on the spaceship.

WHY IS THERE GRAVITY ON THE SPACESHIP???? Everything should be floating, including the water in the pool!!

Unless they spaceship used the spinning-cylinder design (a la 2001 A.S.O.) to generate centrifugal force, there should not have been gravity.

What are we teaching our children????

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Ronda, Midwest — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:15:19 GMT

I took six kids to see the movie - ages 8-12 - and every single one of them loved it.

As a conservative, generally in agreement with "right-wing" ideology, I saw nothing wrong with the movie. Yes, it jabs at the massive consumerism and waste problems we already have in the world. Global warming? Only in the sense that we've let the consumerism rule us. Did you see the mountains of waste left behind? Could you imagine living on a world with that much waste...in the city itself? It's a very extreme look at where we're headed. I'd say it had more of a gentle prod at where we could be going rather than where we'll actually end up.

The most interesting part of the movie for the kids was as we were leaving the theater. The trash can outside the door was overflowing onto the floor. We all found that a little ironic...

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Dawn, Seatt, WA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:34:46 GMT

Does this mean that Pixar is upset with our society not getting exercise? Does this mean they are going to forego putting out the WALL-E video game? Does this mean Pixar doesn’t want us to buy all the WALL-E items that will come from promoting the movie?
I don’t think so! Great movie - great message - but Pixar doesn't get out clean in my book!

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Jen, NY, NY — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:47:22 GMT

Movies and books for kids are often didactic, so I am not sure why people are complaining. Maybe the truth hurts? We are destroying our planet, many people are overweight which is a huge problem in our country, and the scientific fact about bone density would be a problem for humans if our Earth is destroyed! How can we colonize other planets or live in space at the cost of our health? It just means we must take better care of the Earth we already have.

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pam clifton amarillo,texas — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:51:43 GMT

My husbanc and I took both of our grandchildren (12 and 14). We all loved it. They both mentioned that maybe, just mayber, we should recycle.

I don't know why people who are so anti-environmental can't see that just using some common sense and taking care of your "personal" space can't hurt anyone or anything. I sometimes just think they're too lazy to try or just want another point in their rant against anyone who doesn't agree with them

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Gerry, Austin, Texas — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:05:32 GMT

Pixar helps Disney get back to it's animation roots with this movie. An emotional rollercoaster, sad, funny, happy, good guy vs. bad guy, hope vs. despair all rolled into one. It touches the heart. The safest movie to bring your kids to in 20 years! A great story and wonderful animation combine to make this A CLASSIC.

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Nate_Bob, Bloomington, Indiana — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:14:57 GMT

One of the biggest laughs was when Big-and-Large CEO Fred Willard drops the bombshell that the earth has, indeed, become so polluted that it can't support life. His instructions to the refugees in space: "So, stay the course!" At my local cineplex, half the audience laughed out loud; the other half (shamed Bush supporters, no doubt) were stone silent.

As far the lack of dialogue in WALL-E, it was refreshing to see a film like this that didn't have Eddie Murphy or some other actor talking homeboy trash like you see so often in recent Disney films.

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Will, Toronto — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:21:26 GMT

The problem here is that we're over analyzing the movie. This movie definitely seemed to be aimed more toward adults than kids. It really was making fun of modern society. I.e. the scene where the guy asked the other guy if he wanted to golf over his vidi-fone super tv thing and it turned out the guy was right beside him was making fun of how much we would rather use technology than actually talk to someone face to face(this was exaggerated though).

I admit that I thought this was a movie about global warming, but its not. The producers needed a reason that the people ended up in space, trash (a modern day problem) provided the reason. The company (B&N?) can be related to the movie equivalent of Wal-Mart or even Mcdonalds, and provided not only the means for the trash to be made, it feeds into the laziness of the people, and it provides a way that the people go to space.

Once in space the humans needed to change shape(literally). I have no doubt that the decision to make the people overweight was a contraversial one(I mean in Pixar/Disney).

The trash also plays another role because Pixar needed a reason for the people to stay in space, so the trash releases gas and makes it so that humans can't return to Earth.

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Chris, Seattle, Wash — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:31:28 GMT

It makes perfect sense how much controversy this movie has stirred up. The more extreme a view depicted, the more people on any side of any issue will take up arms in defense of their ways. I personally I'm on the side of Elizabeth Ditty and all the other intelligent people who have posted here. Although I'm shocked that the only person who noticed that Wall-E's circuitry was replaced yet he still recognized Eve just saw the religious symbolism. Does anyone else see a problem with that? Any one else here in the tech industry? Come on, that was worse than the gravity issue!

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Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:44:34 GMT

The discussion boards I have seen are typically shallow and polarized… The Pixar folks are very sharp and were careful to play both sides of the political fence. When a kids movie (my 4 year old loved it btw) makes you think for days afterwards and triggers vigorous discussion of important ideas it is an amazing achievement. I’m a traditional, usually conservative, independent and I’m saddened by the knee jerk reactions to this great movie on both the right and the left.

Lefty
-Humans wrecked the planet with their over consumption and pollution.
-Global warming dried up the oceans and turned the Earth into a desert (the oil tankers were parked on dry land).
-Big-corporations are bad and do not have people’s interests at heart.

Righty
-Total reliance on the world government for housing, food, healthcare, and general wellbeing destroyed the humans self reliance, work ethic, health, and humanity. Ouch!
-Wally’s daily work has made him more human than the real humans on the Axiom. The live plant is carried around in an old work boot. Again, work and self reliance = purpose and life.
-Biblical references abound: Wally dies and is resurrected, Eve takes the live plant into her belly like an unborn child, Eve was obviously a nod to Genesis.

Other messages
-Technology is dehumanizing (Kubrick was spot on)
-Technology alone cannot save the Earth; it can only be done with the help of motivated humans.
-Love conquers all, good conquers evil, and hope springs eternal (it doesn’t get any more Disney than that)

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Mike Place, Derby Line, VT — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:45:05 GMT

Wait Joe Snofool what do you mean propaganda? I mean I could see if it was like really preachy and beating it in your face, but this movie is more of a prediction then a propaganda flick. Its not like this is the cold war where no one knows whats going to happen. Its actully happening and like it or not humans are'nt doing alot to stop it.

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Greg H, Houston, TX — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:53:05 GMT

I'm sorry, but I loved the movie. I don't find it necessary to attach any special significance to the characters, the story or anything else. The cinematography was superb. It made me laugh & I left the theatre feeling good. Good job, Pixar!

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David, Silver Spring, MD — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:57:10 GMT

First of all, let's get our environmental problems straight: Wall E has nothing to do with global warming and everything to do with pollution and resource depletion. No one said the humans left earth because of anything to do with global warming. Global warming may lead to things like drought and famine, but not too much litter.

Wall E is the best movie of the year by far, and it doesn't have a single scatological joke or swear word in it stronger than "heck." No one gets drunk or gets naked. No one makes gratuitous pop culture references in an effort to seem cool, with it, or post-modern.

Looks like good films don't have to pander after all.

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Renee, Las Vegas, NV — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:13:37 GMT

I have read every single one of the messages posted prior to mine. And while everyone is arguing about what the underlying messages are, what the overall message that I have found is that it has gotten everyone to talk about it. This movie has done what so few others in its genre have done. WALL-E has pricked the sensitivities of every person that has watched it. It doesn't matter if you are from the "left" or "right", or if you are skinny or thin, or if you recycle or don't...we are talking which is just the beginning of "doing". Whatever it is that each person like or didn't like, I hope that it is enough that it sets you in motion to do something about just that. Every one is entitled to their take on this. No one is right or wrong...just different. But as long as you got a message, then job well done to Pixar.

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Becky, Washington — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:26:25 GMT

American's are fat and LAZY. I know a close family member who only feads her children fast food and they are all seriously overweight. Someone needs to point this out to them (over and over). If you feel bad about yourself, maybe there is a good reason. The fact that we are all here talking about it, means the movie served a greater purpose than entertainment. It's making people think. I loved it, and enjoyed the adorable characters! You can't go wrong.

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AW, Phila, PA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:40:21 GMT

To all of the people who say, "It's just a kids' movie, there's no message," please understand that it's not kids who are writing these movies. It's adults, with adult biases, beliefs, and agendas, for better or for worse. Children's movies and books are actually a pretty good litmus test for the beliefs, conflicts, and concerns within any given society at any point in time, because media is half of what we use to teach - to socialize - our children. There's almost no such thing as a children's story - on film or on paper - that has no message.

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Bill Lundy, San Francisco, CA — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:06:22 GMT

So, Joe Snofoll, Glenn Beck, and the rest of the anti-WALL*E brain trust, what is it about the ideas presented in the movie that bothered you? That they are the only possible result of a society that creates more garbage than it can possibly get rid of? Do you know what a landfill is? Have you seen the landfills in the United States? Did you think the garbage build-up came from global warming?

In short, how can Glenn Beck be against something simply because it proves, through logic and believability (yes, you believe it because it makes literal sense), what he wishes people not believe, and that is that we are already beginning to drown in the garbage we ourselves create on a day-to-day basis? Does Mr. Beck and Mr. Snofoll have an answer to the problem, or are they going to deny it exists? I suppose the brain trust already has the solution for this predicament, and I'll bet it is to shoot the garbage into space -- and the irony of the film, from from coming from it being about global warming or some leftist leaning philosophy (can you say conspiracy theorist, Messrs. Beck and Snofoll) is that the movie society's solution was to shoot the people into space, instead of the other way around.

Only a twisted, conspiracy theorist braintrust would come up with global warming being the underlying, hidden, nefarious theme of such a fabulously entertaining and believable film, that has no basis at all in global warming (no matter how you twist it).

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Adam, Honolulu, HI — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:56:31 GMT

"Of course, my objections about how weight is portrayed in the film have nothing on the right-wing response, which is, frankly, downright silly."
Ahh, the typical "left-wing" response to any type of criticism. Obviously us "right-wing" nut-jobs have no real argument, being too stupid to construct one of course, and any criticism we levy is, well, downright silly. After all, Hollywierd would never try anything as underhanded as to influence children's ideas on the environment, "Go Diego, Go", "Iron Giant", and "Hoot" (to name just three) not withstanding. Silly conservatives, if only we could be as erudite as our “left-wing” betters. <sigh>

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Wayne, Las Vegas, NV — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:43:10 GMT

Three huge thumbs up from my girlfriend, my son, and myself. Next, thanks to Pixar for daring to hold the mirror to the audience, even if it was a bit uncomfortable at first. Another thank you because it spurred conversation amongst us on the way home about favorite moments, recycling, comedy, and environmental issues. Why, I even started to look for the triangular recycle arrows on the bottom of recent disposable plastic containers to divert them into the recycle bin instead of the trash, thanks to the movie.

Now, into the fray. My first impressions about some of the satire: Everything was owned by big business- in fact, it was left up to big business to save the world at one point but failed miserably. It reeked of WalMart but perhaps that is an unfair comparison.

Two, regarding the science bit about bone loss in space, it is actually "bone density" that deteriorates because their is no constant "load" (like pull of gravity) on the bones.

Three, I agree with several of you above that being concerned about the environment is not mindless leftist proaganda. What is so evil about taking care and being mindful of your surroundings?

Fourth, the segment about "blue being the new red" is a spoof on seasonal fashion and how it rarely is a matter of something new and more a matter of recycling same old fashion simply to get people to buy more "stuff."

Fifth, here is something I thought of (after the movie) at my own house as a solution to reducing waste: Most household trash goes into the kitchen trash that is in a closet or cabinet, right? Instead, get two other bins and place them next to the trash. Label one "glass/aluminum," one "trash," and the other "plastic." This will get you in the habit of SORTING your trash AS you discard it, resulting in developing a norm for you and your community. NO MORE EXCUSES for not recycling as much as possible. Also don't trash unwanted electronics, recycle them or donate them to agencies in your community that will fix and resell them or break down the parts. We have that here in Vegas- the Center for the Blind. Proceeds benefit their programs. Together we can solve these problems, Earth.

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Robert, Colorado Springs, CO — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:48:48 GMT

I didn't have a problem with the message, but I did have a problem in that it was marketed to kids and was in no way a kid movie. Kids under the age of 8 are not going to get what is going on. Pixar made up for this by having Wall-E bash into a hundred things so the kids would laugh at this slapstick comedy. If you saw your kids laughing in the theater, that is why. If you have a kid under the age of 8, ask them what the movie was about (before you talk about it). They will have no idea. It was a great idea to have minimal talking, but kids have a difficult time reading body language. I am guessing most did not even realize that Eve was a girl or that Wall-E liked her for most of the movie.

So, the message was fine, but keep the kids at home. They will be bored to death. If you want to give them something of similar entertainment value, go hit yourself with a pan several times in front of them. That is all they will get out of this movie.

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Debi R,Omaha,Ne — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:20:00 GMT

I have not seen Wall-E yet,but, is it just me or does he look like "Johnny #5"?

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bee $ — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:40:52 GMT

if you are complaining about a leftist message, you are more than likely the type of person who makes a pig of themselves with Americas nicer comforts(ie technology, readily available food and shelter.)

if you are complaining about a right wing message. you are more than likely the over sensative wining person who thinks there is no such thing as a wrong answer. you are more conserned with everybody feeling warm and fuzzy about their own self image, that you ignore the facts thaat diabetes is skyrocketing, along with a growing list of obesity related illnesses.

I say americans make complete pigs of themselves across the board. this movie just sheds a little light on that. if you are fat, you should feel bad. maybe you will be motivated to do something about it.

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Linda, Torrance, California — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:56:33 GMT

To Renee of Las Vegas - I think you hit the nail on the head. Everyone who sees it starts thinking and talking. Maybe some are trying to defend their actions, and others are trying to point fingers...but hey...it's a great conversation. And to think the movie itself had very little conversation. Quite an achievement.

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S. W. — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:05:38 GMT

To those who think this movie has a politically correct leftist agenda, I tell you, NO. This is NOT about politics. This is about FACT, that if you continue pollution, industrial development, you'll create hazies skies (been to China? they can hardly breathe) and you will destroy the planet. Try doing this to your own backyard at home. You won't like the scene. You won't like the air.

Everybody who turns this into some political argument is just ignoring fact. Go to countries where there is mass pollution. You'll award this movie an Oscar then.

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Alex George — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:11:09 GMT

This culture puts so much pressure on us: Even being not fat is still not enough, you now have to have a 6 pack abs and grow to become 6 foot 2 to be accepted by society, you have to be rich, and be educated in a top 30 university and work for a fortune 100 company.

Otherwise society labels you as loser. I think that's what is destroying society, and that's what's driving us to consumerism, it’s this society force that asks us to be of a certain type in order to fit in, in order to be accepted and in order to be loved.

I don't think this movie is adding to the pressure, it actually show's how the courage and love of a simple robot is able to attract a high tech robot woman. It is not what he had its how you used it. He used to work his simple job even though he was alone on the planet, and his simple job, made him find the flower. When he met Eve he loved her and that's what saved mankind and returned them to their home, by giving to her that lonely flower.

So kids will leave the movie seeing that, because that’s the real message of the movie. No matter whom these kids are (fat, or poor, not too smart, or just bad at sports), they can make a difference in society, by using God’s gift for mankind: love, which is what makes us human.

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Jennifer H, NH — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:11:24 GMT

Ok, first off I'd like to state that I am 19 year old girl who recently invested in stainless steel canteens, goes to the recycling center once a week, and tends to lean left in the politics department - so I don't want anyone to attempt to say that I am a right-wing conservative when I say that I did not like all of the messages in the movie. Also, it should be noted that I am not obese. However, I feel that the portrayal of the overweight humans talking on their face to face communication devices while right next to each other will have – and should have - a lot of people very insulted. People have to start understanding that obesity is not directly linked with laziness! There are many other factors such as over eating, depression, health history, and other things that make weight loss incredibly hard for those who are overweight. It is not as easy as "getting up and taking a walk" as people have been claiming - there are often a lot of psychological issues involved as well, which make the process much more difficult. I think Pixar should be absolutely ASHAMED of themselves for portraying humans in such a way. This is not only telling kids to go out and exercise, it is telling them that all fat people are lazy leeches on society that don't contribute anything and make the world a horrible place! The last thing we need right now is to give kids another reason to alienate obese children on the playground. Watch them get that 'much needed exercise' while they have no friends! While the message concerning the environment was admirable, it was presented HORRIBLY and OFFENSIVELY unlike Happy Feet which managed to do so in a way that was encouraging and left small children feeling inspired without negatively targeting a group of the population.