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John in Arvada, CO — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:28:06 GMT

ALERT! It's a TV show...and Davis asking for money pretty much shows her real wishes (not to mention what she cares about: money). Just as with most low level trials, different circumstances (or phases of the moon) result in different outcomes. Davis can move on to her apparent success and stop mooching off her previous fluke problem on the show. Be happy, quit whining, don't make someone dredge up something that is NOT good for you!

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Jeff, Evansville, IN — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:55:52 GMT

How about the difference being that Davis admitted her photos and Barba has denied that the photos are her since the beginning? However, I don't begrudge Frenchie Davis a trip to the American Idol ATM if she can get it. :D

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Tommy Marx, Portland OR — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 06:07:24 GMT

Personally, I think the difference is that Frenchie posed for pornographic pictures (not lingerie shots, as has been claimed) for money and didn't acknowledge that until after she had become a Top 24 finalist. Antonella, on the other hand, had private photographs published of her. So while Frenchie was a knowing (and paid) model, Antonella was a victim of "friends" cashing in on her new fame. By the way, excellent article. It's nice to see you gave some real thought to the matter.

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Shell Manion — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 06:49:39 GMT

Barba is Hot, Frenchie in not! Everyone open your freakin' eyes!!! ...duh???

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g, no name city, usa — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:12:10 GMT

Why must you continually dredge up "garbage" about Bo Bice? Bo made mistakes in his past and he changed his life for the better. The big difference is that he was honest and up front with AI about his past. If you want a REAL story, why not write something positive about Bo Bice. You could not find a more humble, charitable, loving, honest, and Christian celebrity if you tried. Just an example: Bo had to leave the AI4 tour due to major surgery, however, he returned for their last concert which benefited the Red Cross. Then, he and his band performed at two additional concerts to help Katrina victims. On top of that, Bo donated his home to a family left homeless after Katrina. The list of charitable actions could go on and on here, but I hope you get the message! How about some objective journalism instead of such sensationalism for a change?

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T. Rheams, Cleveland, TX — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:33:29 GMT

what's good for one should be good enough for the others! Judge them all by the same standards or quit judging period. The show is about singing talent you either have it or you don't. Make your own judgement about what people do in their own privacy that does not relate to their singing abilities! Personally they all need to go, Randy, Paula, and that Simon!!!...

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Penny, La Monte, Missouri — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:09:31 GMT

If Idol always picked out clean cut people, the world would be bored! Seems these little 'scandals' are keeping people watching Idol (this IS one of the dullest seasons EVER), so the producers aren't as ignorant as some think. The ONLY difference between Frnchie and Antonella? 1 made $$$ and 1 has not (at least not that I know of.

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Sue, Quakertown, PA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:49:11 GMT

It's OK that rules change as the show goes along. Doesn't that happen where you work??? No one owes anyone anything, it's a contest and no one is promised anything. One rule I would like to see changed is that 6 men and 6 women go into the finals. The best should be put through and the rest go home.

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Nicole, Washington, DC — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:55:12 GMT

It is easy for a white person to say move on but for years black people have been hit with issues that you can't do this if you don't have this. But a white person w/ no talent or little talent can be given anything. It is wrong and I believe Frenchie has a case of discrimination under the guidelines of the CONSTITUTION....

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KTuck — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:08:10 GMT

I think it shows this country's issue with weight and race. Look at the differences: Antonella is a beautiful young white girl, of course AI would not be embarrassed by her photos and by America's standards they would have been by Frenchie's photos regardless of whether or not these women were paid. This is a double standard and Frenchie should take them to the bank or Antonella should have been kicked off to!

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Jill, Indianapolis, IN — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:19:43 GMT

The real difference is Davis intentionally posted the pictures for money; Barba's seem to have been personal photos posted without her knowledge.

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Jill, Indianapolis, IN — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:21:59 GMT

The real difference is Davis intentionally posted the pictures for money; Barba's seem to have been personal photos posted without her knowledge.

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Jeff, Windsor, ON — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:47:19 GMT

While I wouldn't quite be ready to cry "racism" I do see where a host of negative - and more likely - differences might be perceived. Is Antonella staying because she's prettier? Thinner? A better voice? What? I'm sure there will be a host of theories and explanations. I've seen the pictures; all of them. I haven't been watching AI enough to know if they are, indeed, her or not. Some, as stated publicly, certainly are of her, and that alone should be enough to disqualify her. Yes, most of us have done questionable things in our past (thank God none of my exploits have been photographed!); that's not the issue here, and one must be careful not to become obsessed with this fact. The issue is also not who posted the photos, how they became available, are the seedier ones truly of her, or any other silly, trite detail. The issue is, does a family show that purports to espouse such values allow a contestant with said questionable photos out there for all to see the continuing chance to compete? I have to say, in all fairness, my vote would be "no". AI seems to have taken a hard line with scandals in the previous seasons, why not now? The difference in action on the producers' part is clear; what isn't clear is why. The issue should be addressed and personally, I think Antonella needs to be let go. She knew (or at least should have known) these photos could come back and bite her in the a*s. Yes, she was young, yes we all do crazy things, but we all don't need to audition for a television show, the act of which will most assuredly cause any hidden dirty laundry to come to light and be aired. She should accept the consequences of her ill-conceived past actions and move on, a (hopefully) better person for having learned such a valuable lesson.

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One Rotten Egg, TX — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:48:12 GMT

I totally agree with how FOX/A.I. should handle the situation--guidelines!! Better yet, leave things "as is", and maybe I will try out next year if I put "racy" photos on the internet, go to rehab after being charged with possession and/or distribution of drugs, kick a dog on the way to the audition and get caught on tape doing so, and lastly, who cares if I can sing or not!?! (AS long as I look good, right?)

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Stacy, Atlanta, Ga — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:49:34 GMT

Big difference between a friend snapping a photo that they use against you and having professional photos of you intentionally used for this purpose. We have all had that friend that turns on you for their own 15 minutes of fame. Frenchie should stop whining and move on......

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Mark Post, Orlando, FL — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:54:23 GMT

I love how everyone conveniently forgets the big difference between the two situations: the fact Frenchie's pictures were done for a website that takes adult teens who look significantly younger than their age and dress them up to look even younger (i.e., a faux pedophile website where perverts can go to pretend they're looking at nude pictures of kids). It's one thing to have naked pictures of you on the Net, but it's quite another to have them looking like they were done when you were 13 whether you were or not.

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Beth, Circleville OH — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:07:34 GMT

Who cares about Barba's photos, she can't sing! Get her off of there! And Simon is almost always right, but the meaner he is to a contestant the more likely they are to get voted through. Go figure!

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Karen in Orlando, FL — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:09:41 GMT

I don't think it would be such a big deal if Antonella was one of the top AI wannabe's. I think most people are making a big deal of it because she should have gone home already and she's still there. Frenchie was way more talented. AI doesn't know what to do. They are definitely making up the rules as they go.

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Steph, Miami, Florida — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:12:21 GMT

Let's be honest. It has nothing to do with race. Or money. It is because Antonella is hot and everyone loves the pics and frenchie isn't. I think it is sad and the double standard is stupid (I didn't think Frenchie should get kicked off at the time).

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Gerri — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:13:12 GMT

Frenchie is not the one digging this out of the grave. It's her fans, critics of the show and loudmouths like Rosie O'Donnel, who think they are doing her a favor, bringing this out in th epublic. There is a difference in what Frenchie did and what happened to Antonella. Frenchie posed for a public site. Antonella's privacy was invaded by her jealous friend who was cut from the show.

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Eileen O — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:27:37 GMT

Barba needs to go. The bottomless pictures of her with her little wet t-shirt in the WWII memorial is over-the-top disrespectful, never mind illegal. Frenchie's pictures weren't smart, but didn't break federal laws.

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Karen in Orlando, FL — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:32:32 GMT

Oh, and by the way, I think I know how AI could actually make this into a talent competition vs. a popularity contest. Let the audience vote for the person they would like to see go. The person with the MOST votes would then be booted off. It's a foolproof way to make you vote on talent only.

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Kathleen, Minneapolis, MN — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:38:33 GMT

The key difference between Barba and Davis is that Davis had a very good shot at winning it all while Barba will be gone soon. In the eyes of the show, what does it hurt to keep Barba on since she obviously helps ratings? The producers know she won't last. Frenchie had a legit chance of winning.

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Sarah H, Kansas City, Mo. — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:39:18 GMT

Okay, there's a pretty big difference in being paid to be featured on a pornographic Web site as opposed to be young and kind of dumb. The pictures I've seen of Barba appear to be pretty typical of your average sorority girl. I don't think I've come across the racier pics, but apparently they're not her anyway. Davis was paid to pose topless for a porn site. Barba was simply being young and having fun without regard for the consequences of there being cameras around. Big difference.

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Kate Nashville TN — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:51:55 GMT

There's no excuse for Barba having the pictures taken, of her performing oral sex on a guy, in the first place. The girl is a very poor example, of what an Idol should represent, and has no business on the show. My immediate re-action of the girl was.. she's not there, to become a singer(and we all know it). So give her to Hefner.., whatever it takes, to get her off the show.

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Jane Doe, Boston, Mas — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:01:40 GMT

This is exactly the same thing I've been saying all along... And only now someone seems to agree with me and bring up the whole Frenchie Davis thing... Antonella Barba CANNOT sing, Frenchie could and does so beautifully on the broadway stage... The ONLY reason Antonella is still there is because she's white

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Spike Murphy, Madison, WI — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:06:48 GMT

Davis asking for money? A bit trifling, if you ask me. The fact that she was paid for the pictures DOES make a difference. And in any case, Davis got the better deal - she didn't have to stick to Idol's draconian contracts which last forever and stick it to the artist. Girlfriend is in "Rent", for crying out loud - if she hadn't been on "Idol", she'd be a head cashier at Target.

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.. — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:07:09 GMT

This show is racist, look who produces the show "FOX" nuff said huh? But anyway, JOHN before you comment read the whole story, there have been others who had far worse issues than photos or a minor pot charge. Every southern rocker Idol had had a CRIMINAL PAST! does that count as a reason to go? I think so. But i cant get into their heads(the Producers) but I'm not watching anymore , and the longer this goes on noone else will be either.

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B, Austin, TX — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:07:35 GMT

Treat them the same. Boot Barba the same as Frenchie was booted. Let her try and work it on on Broadway, Playboy, or whatever other venue she decides to pursue. Barba shouldn't be given any special considerations.

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Greg, Columbus, Ohio — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:14:42 GMT

I just started watching American Idol this season, but was aware of the whole "Frenchie" debacle. This does seem to be a double standard on the part of the Idol producers, and Frenchie should have no problem hinting at monetary compensation. If she had stayed on the show and won, who knows the financial gain she would have gotten.

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Marko, Rantoul IL — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:17:30 GMT

Personally - I don't care what salacious history is behind these contestants. Rock and Pop stars have always and will always have their share of bad decisions. It doesn't make them any less talented. You could say they don't deserve their stardom, or that they've "bitten the hand that feeds", but just like a certain percentage of the "non-star" people out there do "dumb" things, a similar percentage of the stars do. Stars, just like athletes, are talented people doing work with their talent. They are not pretending to stand on higher moral ground - that's our politicians (who also make their fair share of dumb decisions!). I don't know nor care why Frenchie is gone, and Antonella isn't. I know that this years competition is the weakest I've ever seen (maybe as weak as the year with Fantasia - I never liked anyone on that season either!).

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shelly — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:31:58 GMT

American Idol is loosing a big fan base. Barba needs to go. How can you justify keeping her. What is the line in the song from WEST SIDE STORY "to be white in America" Wow.....what year was the movie out? .... and it still rings true today, and then for the producers to ignore the issue, not even address it. Amazing.

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Ellen, Worcester, MA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:34:24 GMT

Well, Barba took some of her "racy photos" in the fountain at the WWII National Veterans Memorial. How much worse does it have to get for someone to be asked to pull out of the show?

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French Fry, Paris, France — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:40:09 GMT

Wasn't the site Frenchie modeled for promoting underage sluts, even though the women photographed were of age? If so, that's one difference. the second difference is that she confirmed that she posed, while the other girl denied it. Furthermore, and girl that was actually photographed has already come forward and confessed. I think Frenchie is ungrateful. She she's gotten too much opportunity out of American Idol, where she wouldn't have otherwise; yet, she continues her panhandling. AI doesn't owe her a dime.

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L Palum New Jersey — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:40:52 GMT

If Barba at least had some singing talent the situation would not be so bad. Barba should have been eliminated two weeks ago and the only thing keeping her in the competition is the fact that she has developed a fan base as a result of the photos. The girl can't sing! American Idol producers need to change some rules - Vote for the person that you want off the show not the person you want to stay.

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Marta — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:52:42 GMT

That's just the tip of the iceberg on what they're not telling us.

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Jamie, Mississippi — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:03:58 GMT

In my opinion, American idol may be losing its spark. It is for me anyway. It seemed this season, during the auditions, they were more interested in showing who did NOT make it, than showing the ones who did make it thru to Hollywood. That lost my interest. I truly believe that American Idol is fixed anyway. They have never told the public how may votes the contestants get week after week, so how do we know that its legit? Sorry Idol, but you have lost me as a viewer.

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Scott, Chicago IL — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:31:20 GMT

Sure, John, American Idol is just a TV show for those of us watching it at home. The stakes are a lot higher for the competitors. Davis is doing fine for herself, so I agree she doesn't have much of a case. But at the very least, AI needs to adopt a clear, consistent set of standards for their competitors; it can make the difference between a hugely profitable career and fading into obscurity.

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Q, Atlanta — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:33:14 GMT

for those of you who say that there's a difference in that Barba was 'young and dumb', why not ask yourself this: Couldn't it be possible the Frenchie was 'young and dumb' also???? I mean, she was 19 and wasn't she trying to make some money while at Howard University???!!!!! At least Davis can argue that her lapse in judment was a means to an ends..which was paying for education! I mean, sheesh, stop justifying Barba and criticizing Davis when it's the SAME THING morally! And i listened to Frenchie's interview on the radio today. She did not ask for monetary damages....she just wanted and apology and an explanation. Wouldn't you?!

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Meredith, Memphis, TN — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:33:38 GMT

While I do agree that there should be some explanation for what is and is not acceptable, I imagine that, much like in the REAL music industry, the Fox producers decide these things on a case by case basis. There's no rhyme or reason to the decisions made. If Frenchie did indeed disclose the information about the photos beforehand, she should have stayed on, since the main theme here seems to be "prior disclosure". However, I'm questioning whether or not she did mention those photographs beforehand. I recall that at the time, Fox said they weren't informed at the outset, and Frenchie didn't argue that. All of a sudden now she's holding out her hand and saying otherwise. I loved Frenchie and find her very talented, but I don't believe that Antonella's photos have anything to do with Frenchie's. Frenchie posted "professionally" and was paid for an adult site. Antonella's personal and private photos were apparently taken from her computer and posted on the web. The music industry doesn't base anything on vocal talent. If it did, 3/4 of the artists out there would be jobless. So let's not pretend that Idol is anything different. It's a popularity contest. That's it and that's all.

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rebecca, newark, nj — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:40:24 GMT

Antonella needs to go, it's a damn shame she's still around the simply fact is she CANNOT sing... For me AI is losing credibility with me and I'm sure with other Americans . Right now it's all about race, a fact that's glaringly obvious, because quite frankly, what's good for one should be good for the other...

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jane doe, las vegas, nv — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:40:28 GMT

Why is it when someone gets caught doing something criminal or immoral it "screams of racism". Doesn't matter what Frenchie is, what she did for money was disgusting and it got her kicked off but let's sue and claim FOX is racist because we can and that can get money. Claiming that it was injust b/c they both were found on the internet won't get a monetary settlement.

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Erv, Iowa — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:40:46 GMT

Idol is a singing contest not a contest on who has the best character or morality. I think criminal background should be a non issue as well as posing naked. I'd pose naked for money. Frenchie needed the money I would assume. Simon is well known to be a womanizer, should he be allowed to be a judge??

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S. M. N., Cranston, RI — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:59:49 GMT

I say let's not have 6 and 6. Let's just have the top 12 voices go into the finals. People are in among the top 12 because of their sex and not their talent!

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Kurt, Mesa AZ — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:04:13 GMT

The real question should be how old was she when she took these pictures. If she was under 18 then everybody who has looked at these pictures, took the pictures or are in them, are guilty of some type of child pornogophy.

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Sarah, Alexandria, VA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:17:05 GMT

Personally, I think that it's ridiculous that the Barba-Davis problem has become a race issue. I'll be the first to admit that black people are consistently treated as second-class citizens in this country, or are denied the same benefits and privileges as white people. However, I think it's a little irresponsible to quickly label it a matter of black vs. white before looking into all of the possible reasons for Davis' dismissal from the show when Barba is (so far) allowed to stay. First of all, Barba, or at least camps for her, are vehemently denying that the pictures circulating are of her. Regardless of whether or not they are, it would be unfair to dismiss her from AI without first investigating to find the truth. Secondly, Davis achieved a financial gain by posing for these pictures and having them published in one capacity or another. Barba, however, is only achieving public humiliation and although the pictures are inarguably distasteful and not for young eyes, the fact that she did them as an adult and under the impression that they were not going to be publicly available should at least allow her the benefit of defending herself (if in fact they are of her). And we all know what we were taught as children -- when someone's teasing you or embarrassing you, the surefire way to get people off your back is to pretend like it doesn't bother you. For Antonella to admit defeat and be booted from the show would be a victory to whomever it was that decided to distribute the pictures and ruin this girl's probably already slightly tarnished reputation. And finally, frankly I think that the Davis camp should just simmer down about the entire debacle because it's not as if being booted from American Idol ended all opportunities for Frenchie to make it big. She's on Broadway, for cripes' sake! She's got an amazing voice , and with her obvious talent, she should be happy with the fame that AI brought her, even if it was prematurely cut off. Let's face it -- Barba, if voted off, probably wouldn't be signing any record deals in the near future. Let her have her fifteen minutes!

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Indiana — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:34:54 GMT

There is absolutely a difference between posing nude for money and having personal pictures taken...and I am tired of hearing it being a racial thing!!! Then to try and get money for having been booted off is a disgrace. Why is it that when something like this comes up and the circumstances are different it always seems like a racial act?????

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Kelly W., Los Angeles, CA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:36:12 GMT

Am I the only one who sees a hispanic/latina when I see Miss "Barba" that's not a White name, she's not a white girl...I'm a white girl and I don't look like that! So that ends the racism debate - right??

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Patrick, Reseda, CA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:45:51 GMT

I'm pretty sure Antonella Barba isn't white. More like hispanic/latina.

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Peggy Paskert — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:49:05 GMT

I feel that Davis has a valid point. If the producers are going to kick contestants off the show they should have equal standards for everyone. Whether Barba posted the photos or not still deserves some kind of explaination from the producers as to why they are or are not addressing the topic. There doesn't seem to be any set rules or guidelines. I'm still upset over the fact that Barba and her friend purposely submarined another contestant's chances at making the selection during Hollywood week by not practicing with the third contestant in the group singoffs, and at the last minute decided on a song that the two friends new and had more than likely practiced for. This left that poor third contestant bewildered and left out. It's no wonder she couldn't remember the song. I guess Barba and friend were prettier. Talk about double standards. Leave out the teaming up stuff unless the producers have some control over it and make sure that evey contestant has equal opportunity to present themselves to the best of their ability. I know this is not a perfect world, but come on. Let's make this equal for everyone concerned. I love the show, but I think the Producers need to overhaul the procedures for contestant selection.

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Just saying..Sacto, CA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:57:07 GMT

If you've seen the pictures of Barba, you'll see that they're not your average fun partying pictures. Sure there are some in a bar and those are fine. but the others look like they're professionally done or they were done to be sent to an agent or something. I know when I'm taking fun pictures with friends, I don't pose on a basketball in my little white undies. I don't do sexy poses in a WWII Memorial fountain. That's not something that you just do when having fun with friends. Whether they've been published or not, I believe the pictures were taken with that intent.

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S, Chesapeake, NJ — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:57:43 GMT

I think the whole issue is being blown out of proportion. Yes, they both made stupid mistakes, but it is NOT a racial issue how everyone seems to think it is. Why can people not just accept that they are both human beings regardless of their skin color! Can we not look beyone that? As far as talent, Frenchie was talented and not so much for Barba. However, this is a reality TV show. The rules are going to change regardless. The change them as the situation fits. No one asked either of them to go on the show, or to take pictures of themselves. However, now they are both being thrown through the mud because of their decisions, for whatever reason they chose to do it. They both just need to drop it. In regards to monetary restitution, if Frenchy was as great a singer as everyone thought she was, she would already be signed by a label. As for Barba, if her friend posted them on the net, she should be seeking legal counsel to go against the person who posted them on the net! Truth in point, everyone has skeletons in their closet, it is all what you decide to do with them.

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Ms Daisy — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:58:53 GMT

Antonella should be kicked off the show BECAUSE SHE CAN'T SING, not because she may have some naughty pictures of her floating around on the internet.

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Cheryle — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:59:34 GMT

I think American Idol producers are guilty of discrimination and this has nothing to do with F. Davis. If you ask me the fact that there is a maximum age limit is discriminatory. What if I decided I wanted to have a singing competition and say no black people can audition, or no Asians can audition? That is clear discrimination and clearly would not be allowed in this country, so why is it that a maximum age limit is set and that is not considered discrimination? Furthermore, an "idol" is someone who has established themself to a postion worthy of being an "idol". Somebody 16 - 28 would not have established themself as worthy of being an "idol", except for rare occasions. In the music industry people there are hundreds of people over 28 who are really taltned; the ones who have established and honed their talent; and lots of these people still looking for that almighty break. It seems quite unfair to exlude them from this singing competition. Much of the talent on this season are far from exceptional and there is a lot of undiscovered exceptional talent in a older age range. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest!

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Valerie, Richmond, VA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:02:31 GMT

Ummmm...HELLO!?!? This is about to become a big old NON-ISSUE anyway. Little Miss No Talent Barba isn't going to be around much longer. She's about to be voted off the island, and within a week nobody will remember her or her stupid photos.

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Wondering This, Annapolis MD — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:09:12 GMT

How can the show be racist when 2 of the 5 winners have been black?

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Jane Doe, Charlotte, NC — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:09:59 GMT

Barba cannot sing and probably would have gone home first if these photos had not surfaced. While Barba denies them, look at all the attention and fame they have gotten her, everyone knows her name. You cant say that for the rest of the top 24. I bet she manages to use this as a stepping stone. I am not sure who ever put these photos out did it to hurt her as somebody said any publicity is good publicity!

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Liz, Fairfax, Virginia — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:13:23 GMT

OK, folks let's get real. Would you want to be judged today for something you did five years ago, whether you were upfront with folks about it or not? The reality is that it is a double standard; no Frenchie should not be looking for money even though one could argue that being booted from Idol negatively impacted her earnings potential. All of the little variants people find to indicate circumstantial differences are non-sense (Show me an instance where drug use is acceptable)....if pornographic photos posted on the web qualifies for dismissal, does not drug abuse? Both cases are historical and apparently were brought to the attention of the producers. If there is going to be a contest, then there needs to be consistency with the rules by which the contestants are to abide.

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Anna Jones — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:16:52 GMT

It's a singing contest, not a morality judgment!

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Ezzy, Tacoma WA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:24:14 GMT

Racism? Oh, please! The show is rigged so the winner is whoever the producers want it to be and 2 out of the last 5 seasons have given us black winners. Sorry, but the racism claims just don't make good sense. I'm pleasantly surprised Frenchie herself isn't crying racism. It would be a classy move if she wasn't just looking for cash. Antonella isn't being kicked off because she can't sing and she isn't going to win. Frenchie had a fighting chance and they had to get rid of her because an Idol who took dirty pictures just won't do.

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Candice, Tucson, AZ — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:25:49 GMT

One of the biggest differences I see is that Franchie was a front runner from the very beginning, she has a phenomenal voice! Antonella on the other hand is mediocre at best. Simon says it every week, this is a singing competition. Barba shouldn't even have gotten this far. What they showed of her during the Hollywood week had me seriously questioning what they based their decision to keep her on. She forgot lyrics and overall did not do anything to leave a lasting impression, yet somehow made it through to the top 24. Racy photos aside, if this is in fact a singing competition, she needs to go home because her voice is nothing to brag about.

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ANA @yahoo.com — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:33:20 GMT

what a boring season AI has this ytear. I was looking forward for the program to emerge again & was totally disappointed as the show go on. First thereis the "3" judges to observe and one comment is "what is wrong with Paula? Has she lost her dignity? Acting weird/kinda drunk and high & shaking her a*s if the music is jiveby. Please Paula act like a "LADY" without over doing it. I still want you to be one of the judges but be a natural. Thanks to Simon's bluntness/honesty about the contestants talent.At least he is telling the truth. If I was a contestant & knew I don't have that singing talent I will not expose myself for the million of people to see & be rediculed even if they don't know me. Contestant have some kind of dignity. For the talented ones' show your skills.

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S, Utah — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:43:59 GMT

I'm pretty sure that Antonella is Italian...but anyway. There are websites out there that encourage people to "Vote for the Worst" - check it out if you don't believe me. Antonella is one of the picks, this is the reason she is staying on the show when she should be eliminated and it's happened in seasons past...not because the show is rigged. And while what she did was distasteful, those pictures were private...not intended for other eyes to see, while Frenchie's pictures were taken for the sole purpose of other people to see. I hate to see people pull the racism card so much, it's almost like crying wolf. There really are legit problems with racism in this country, let's focus on those and not make problems where there are none.

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Bolver Cotter — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:45:58 GMT

Try Italian, not hispanic!

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.... — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:47:27 GMT

I agree with Peggy... Truth be told, it double standard all the way, like it or not. That's just the way it is, for me it comes down to the fact Antonella CANNOT sing but yet week after week there she is acting like she can and getting snippy with the judges when they call her on it... Did anyone notice that initial look of pure anger that crossed her face when Randy told her she didn't cut it, and her having the nerve to say Simon was wrong about Jeniffer Hudson. In what world can their talent or lack theref be compared? Ms Barba is obviously someone who has gotten along and probably even had it easier than most because of her looks. Week after week, it's her looks along with the producers need to have her there for ratings is what keeps her on the show, we all know there's no way for the viewing public to know for sure the validity of the voting results, let's face it, AI is sure entertainment and a huge cash cow for FOX

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Mary Price, Illinois — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:54:27 GMT

Antonella was sitting on a TOILET smiling holding toilet paper! If this doesn's show questionable moral judgement, I don't know what does! Frenchie was on a site that was LEGAL. She needed money. How is that different from former contestants who have been professional strippers? Although I don't think it is racism, I do think she was discriminated against due to her size and appearance. On a side note, why is it that Ryan Seacrest isn't being reprimanded from pointing/elluding to, on a live family show, that kelly Pickler had breast enhancement surgery? Why did the producers air the audition round of the girl talking about how her father shot her step mother in the throat? Remember, fans of the show don't always surf the internet to dig dirt, but the producers and editors consciencely decided to dish it on air.

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telly tubbie — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:57:37 GMT

What I really like is the way everyone refer to the pictures as "alledged" , " a woman who looks like Barba" , truth is we will be seeing a lot more of this girl, AI or not.

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Abbi, Ohio — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:03:47 GMT

I am so sick of people crying racism over this. These are two different offenses, as has been clearly stated. Davis wasn't booted from the show because she's black, she was booted because she chose to pose for porn well aware it would end up on the web for the world to see. And I'm sure Barba wasn't kept strictly because she's white, maybe they decided to let her stay because they knew she never intended for her photos to become public. Or maybe it's because there's no proof those racier photos are even her. Whatever the case is, I'm sure the A.I. execs know much more about the issue than we do. Maybe we should save the racism accusations for when they actually apply, huh?

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Kathee, Cool, California — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:10:57 GMT

There is a BIG difference here, and it has NOTHING to do with race. Frenchie Davis didn't just pose for nude photos. She was part of an interactive pornographic website. That is a HUGE difference from Antonella's pictures. However, Ebony Joiner, another talented young singer, was not put through to the top 40 because she posed in racy lingerie with football players. AI needs to be consistant. When these pictures were made public, they should have let Antonella go. She has NO CHANCE of winning. She can't even sing well. Marisa Rhodes, who was with her in the final 2 to go to the top 24, was robbed. Marisa was a much better singer and she should have been put through. I hope she comes back next year and gets to the top 24. Antonella is also very disrespectful to the judges. Her comments last week were uncalled for an also untrue. The fact that these pictures do exist shows that she has made some very foolish choices. The picture of her in front of the WW2 War Memorial is inexcusable. It is a slap in the face to every veteran who fought in that war. In this age of Y0uTube and My Sp@ce, you need to keep your pants up and your underwear on, or your reputation may suffer for years to come. Antonella needs to go home this week. AI is going to have to do some major PR work over this. Not only has this scandal hurt AI, but also the fact that there are hardly any good singers this year compared to last year. Melinda, LaKisha, Blake and Chris Sligh are the only ones worthy of the top 4! Stephanie and Jordin are good, but no one else is unique or shines. I think AI will lose ratings once the top 10 is announced.

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Lori, Detroit , MI — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:14:47 GMT

I would like to see AI choose the top 12 voices also instead of 6 male and 6 female. The number of votes would be nice also. We should vote for who we don't want to stay in the contest.

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Sabrina, DC — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:19:47 GMT

Barba needs to go, period. She can't sing, and how does having racy photos of one of your contestants plastered all over the internet help you in the long run, seriously Idol? It might boost ratings in the short run, but COME ON... do you seriously think that parents and more morally uptight people who probably USED to watch the show are going to continue to watch it now? Plus, Barba claiming the oral sex photos aren't her is BS, if you ask me. The website Vote For The Worst, one of the original places to post the photos and claim they were her, is now saying that, based on an EAR SHAPE COMPARISON (oh yeah, real scientific evidence, that) that the oral sex photos are NOT, in fact, Barba. I don't know about most of you, but I'd prefer a bit more scientific evidence than that. I've heard claims that the photos were taken off of an adult website; I'd like to see the URL for this website produced so I can see if there are any photo credits or identifications of this woman. Until then, I'm sticking to the idea that it IS Barba, because regardless of a minor difference in ear shape (which could be attributed to the angle of the photograph or the fact that it was dark versus light or a hundred other factors) the woman looks EXACTLY like her. And yes, I have actually seen the photos, much to my eternal disgust. As for Frenchie; you know what, more power to her if she takes Idol to the bank. I think they need a wakeup call anyway; just because you're the most popular show on television currently doesn't mean you're invincible. They need to change the way they do things on that show, PRONTO. Change the voting system, make it so the judges pick the top twelve instead of letting America vote for them; that way we'd actually get some TALENT in the top 12; heck, change up the judges on occasion. But keep Simon; if nothing else, he tells it like it is, and I respect the heck out of him for that. My two cents.

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Linda — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:23:29 GMT

In one photo Barba is sitting bare-bottomed on the WWII Veteran's Memorial Fountain in Washington, D.C. That's a public place, and definitely not "private."

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David, Germany — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:23:47 GMT

In all my time on the internet I have -never- come across so many consecutive posts that contained not only legibility but good English in some cases. Forget the topic at hand - I'm beginning to get suspicious of who's really posting all these comments. FOX hiring people to stir up the masses? It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened...

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Linda — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:24:51 GMT

Antonella Barba is an Italian name.

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B-man — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:44:01 GMT

First off, know that I have not seen any of the offending pics of either Frenchie or Antonella. My beef is with how the show started out in the beginning by booting off people (even talented ones like Frenchie), I assume because they wanted to be considered a "family" show. Cool....why change now?? They are still broadcasting during the family hours of 8pm to 10pm. If you start out with a strict rule of "no criminal or immoral acts allowed" six years ago, then you must stick to that rule today, if you still want to appeal to the "kiddies" out there. AI...you do still want to appeal to the kiddies out there, don't you??

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padutchchick, clayton, PA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:46:16 GMT

Antonella=huge crashing bore. Oh pretty, yeah I guess...whatever...but frankly, she even seems embarassed when the judges bring that up. But at the end of the day, her pictures are like any other tarty myspace pictures -- earth to young girls everywhere --stop it. It's stupid and going to resurface someday and you're going to make your mom and dad feel bad. Use your brains, not your boobs.

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cris — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:46:23 GMT

I think AI has a problem promoting some of their contestants. They never seemed to be able to sucessfully market Ruben Studdard but they went out of their way to provide Clay Aikens with an image. I think had the winner been up to the AI producers, Clay would have won over Rueben. What's that got to do with the inconsistency between Frenchie and Barba? Well, I suspect AI would have had a huge problem marketing Frenchie. I don't know if readers/posters here remember her for the brief time she was on AI but she had an awesome and powerful voice. She'd make Barba sound like a singing chipmuck. I can't help but wonder if AI realized their short comings, kicked her off out of fear of tainting their family friendly program but perhaps hooked her up with the right people on Broadway. Just like they hooked Clay up with better promoters/marketing than Rueben.

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Patrick, Minneapolis — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:55:36 GMT

Domestic violence: OK if it's not larger than a phone??? In that case, here are the other limitations: Drug possession: OK if less than 20 ounces; murder: OK if done in the 5th degree; child abuse: OK if no visible marks remain; armed robbert: OK if the weapon(s) wasn't(weren't) loaded; animal abuse: OK if animal has no permanent damage.

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guppyman — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:05:20 GMT

Give Frenchie some money. She got screwed out of a chance to cash in big time when they booted her. Keep Antonella just to give this show what it deserves... Vote for the worst folks... Maybe then they'll put in 24 talented people instead of 3 or 4 and a bunch of karaoke singers....

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Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:09:15 GMT

i really don't think it's blatant racism per se, but i do think that people are in general more sensitive to young beautiful non-black women than to black women...be it race, beauty, weight whatever. i mean, ask yourself this, back 5 years ago (or even now), had frenchie's pictures been for personal use and were 'leaked' would you really be saying "she was just young and dumb" and give her a chance to win? Im sure the majority would not. People have to face reality that there's a double-standard...it's not necessarily classified as racism. For instance, the two girls here in Atlanta that robbed a bank are being called 'Barbie Bandits'. They are being protrayed favorable in the media...."they are good kids who went down the wrong path". Truthfully, had that been two black females, would we really be hearing this?? anyway, frenchie did not stir up this mess, she was brought into it by whomever wanted to make controversy (although i must say that i thought about frenchie when i first heard about anna)...and she does not want money, just an explanation. she said that she's found happiness on broadway.

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Pamela Pancrazio — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:09:30 GMT

Hello morons. Antonella took those photos for someone. She did not pose for a web site. It is not her fault thats where they ended up.

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Natalie, Phoenix AZ — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:16:11 GMT

I don't think any of the contestants deserved the boot. Look at any of today's pop-stars and these Idol kids are a lot more "squeeky-clean" than most of them. Britney Spears anyone? Frenchie probably needed the money and posed for the pictures, something I wouldn't do, but who am I to judge? Antonella is just young and ignorant. These kinds of things don't really bother me, it's the media storm that surrounds it and the way FOX handles it that I have a problem with. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Don't leave the reasons up for interpretation, make a statement about it so you don't look like such a hypocrite slimeball (FOX).

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Dave C Raleigh NC — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:36:08 GMT

Miss Mary Prince of Illinois says that one of the pictures is of Miss Barba sitting on a TOILET and holding TOILET PAPER! Then she questions her moral quality. Oh those reprehensible toilets. Surely only HEATHENS use them. And only the most VILE of people would dare to use TOILET PAPER while on the toilet!

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just talkin — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:53:47 GMT

The writer can write whatever makes a story great. Now the basis of this story is an eye opener...great points...and very well written, but don't harp on the part the Davis wants money when her statement wasn't written in quotes...just the writers version of what may not be the truth. (((She's hinting that she wouldn't mind a monetary settlement from the show, which is absolutely the wrong thing to say. The ground she's standing on would look a lot more firm if she simply went forward and saying "I don't want money, I just want someone to explain the difference."))) Read it again...which sounds like Davis and which is the writers 'ohhwee make it juicy'...I believe the end..."I don't want money, I just want someone to explain the difference"....is actually the Davis we wanted to vote for...I believe her statement was twisted into this paragraph to appear the way it appears. Now to the real real real deal. This girl will be going home real soon. What we heard during audition was a comparison to the 'stop them now' non singers...now that she's up against some really good singers...her time is about up. AND....if the photos are of her...I'll bet my last cent on HER Girlfriend who was booted off by the judges is behind the whole stinking thing. Those were photos that only silly girls having fun will take...she needs to re-evaluate her friendship with the one that feels her buddy stabbed her in the back. Remember the booted off one was trained to sing...and the riskyone was not...but got a spot. Yep..girly check your friend.

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S Utah — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:24:33 GMT

I have to chuckle at David's post. There are a lot of intelligent people who watch American Idol. It's not just all teenage girls. Fox certainly didn't hire me to stir up the masses, I actually came up with an opinion all on my own! And just because a photo was taken in a "public" place, doesn't mean the photo was "public" as well. I took a picture of me in the park, it doesn't mean I had intentions to post it on the internet. Come on!

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AI Watcher from the Start, USA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:31:56 GMT

I don't think it is racist, but I do think it may be weightest! Frenchie is not a 'little' girl, she is a big woman with a big voice. Barba is playboy material. When Frenchie was on AI, Simon was still making fun of women's weight. I think the fact that Barba has tight b00bs and a tight a$$ is the biggest difference.

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ANA Palo Alto CA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:49:27 GMT

what a boring season AI has this year. I was looking forward for the program to emerge again & was totally disappointed as the show go on. First there is the "3" judges to observe and one comment is "what is wrong with Paula? Has she lost her dignity? Acting weird/kinda drunk and high & shaking her a*s if the music is jiveby. Please Paula act like a "LADY" without over doing it. I still want you to be one of the judges but be a natural. Thanks to Simon's bluntness/honesty about the contestants talent.At least he is telling the truth. If I was a contestant & knew I don't have that singing talent I will not expose myself for the million of people to see & be rediculed even if they don't know me. Contestant have some kind of dignity. For the talented ones' show your skills.

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Pennsylvania — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:53:11 GMT

Ear shape comparison is legitimate evidence. Ears are like fingerprints, no two are exactly alike.

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Ash, Omaha, Ne. — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:58:39 GMT

I haven't seen these pictures of Antonella, but I have feeling she has allowed these to be released. This is a real shame, cause if she wins American Idol, it will not be for her singing. It will be because of these photos..... What a shame!

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John P, New York , NY — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:03:13 GMT

the show is out for 1 thing and that is to make money -- they could care less about anything else. The fact that Barba might make the top 12 because of her pictures is just sad. The WWII Memorial pictures are her though and they are a disgrace

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JM Miller — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:11:02 GMT

Has everyone here posting actually seen the Barba pictures. There are so many comments that the photos were all "private" snapshots and not professionally taken shots. I don't know but the "american beauty" pose sure looks like a professional shot to me. It sure looks to me like a double standard at play here although I think it is less about race and more about size and weight. I am not surprised by the stand taken by AI with respect to Barba considering the considerable time that was invested in her and her friend in the early episodes. To have invested that time only to boot her off as they did Davis would not have made for good tv.

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DeDi — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:30:17 GMT

People crack me up who think "Simon is always right." I don't think he's turned on a station with current music for a decade. He MANY times has dissed a contestant for appearance, will never be more than a Cabaret singer, won't get farther than Broadway, ad nauseum, then jumps on the bandwagon when it's apparent the contestant is going farther than he'd hoped; i.e., Clay Aiken, Jennifer Hudson, etc. And the man who must think he looks hot in one of his 350 faded black Hanes t-shirts thinks I care about his opinion on someone's outfit or appearance. What an idiot.

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Pam, Yakima WA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:59:51 GMT

If they stopped producing A.I., it would barely produce a blip on my radar, so little do I care about the show and it's contestants and judges. Boring, boring, boring. Snore.

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Bleeding Ears, USA — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:38:43 GMT

Ok. Here is the scoop. This show has been and will always be bad. Poor singers at best, even the winners. If the silly masses would quit voting maybe humanity as a whole could be saved from future seasons of this drible.

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Diane — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:54:30 GMT

To those of you questioning if Barba is white....are you crazy? She is am Italian Jersey Girl (not that there's anything wrong with that).

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Lindsay, Huntington, WV — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:26:02 GMT

I agree the show's a family show, and certain people shouldn't be on it. Murderers and those convicted of manslaughter (regardless of the circumstances) for example. If Davis is a "bad example", why wasn't Fantasia considered one as well? After all, it was discovered that she really couldn't read that well, and she's a teenage mother. I agree with Davis. There really does seem to be a double standard on AI. You can be young and irresponsible, beat your girlfriend with a telephone, and get arrested not once, not once, but TWICE for drug offenses (at least one being a felony), but you can't pose in racy photographs and get paid for it. Either the show's producers need to focus on finding a true and ocmplete American Idol, or make it about the singing only, and ignore the personal issues. Until then, honestly, it just looks like they're looking for pretty people.

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Jenny, MN — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:50:05 GMT

As far as I see it the issue SHOULD be that some of those pictures were taken IN the fountain of the WWII memorial. Can that little get any more disrespectful? It's disgusting. THAT is what she should be kicked off for: Crawling around essentially naked in a memorial honoring the "Greatest Generation" for their sacrifice of thousands of lives and having pictures taken of it (which appear to be professional and intentionally sexual).

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Brenda B, Pensacola, FL — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:56:46 GMT

Some of the above comments are race related. People, this is 2007. Vanessa Williams got a bad rap. She is beautiful and talented. She rose above everything and has made a solid career because that is what she wanted to do. Frenchie has more talent than Ms. Barba and who cares if it is about money, we are talking American Idol here and if Frenchie gets Broadway because she indeed can sing, and Antonella gets Playboy or nothing because she is pretty, but has a nasty attitude, then it is great for both of them. I thought Simon was nice tonight. Antonella can't sing other than for friends or family. She is not stage material. I am proud of Frenchie and I am white. It is not a race issue. It is a talent competition. Frenchie is talented, Barba is not. Both Chris's, Blake, Brandon, Phil are all good, but Lakisha and Melinda are the ones to beat. Stephanie, Sabrina and God Bless little Jordin are the ones who should go on tour. They are also the ones who should be given record deals. It is not a color issue. It is a talent issue. I don't know who will win. Melinda is my favorite, but I love Lakiesha's attitude as much as her voice. I love her because talent or not, the best talent she has is being a great mother to her little girl and the girl can sing. Her relatives were adorable tonight. It is a talent issue, not a color issue. The prior seasons are just that, priors. I love Stephanie, Jordin and Sabrina and I would not care if the aforementioned people were pink with polka dots, I watch the show because of the talent. They have talent. I am totally blown away by the women. The only problem I have with the show is that I don't think it needs to be 6 women and 6 men. There are not 6 men who deserve to be in the finals. The women rock. Go Kaleisha and Melinda. You are my idols.

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Teresa Light, Louisville, TN — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:17:16 GMT

I think the blanket statement made in the article above is PROBABLY pretty close to what the AI producers are going by (If we know about your issue ahead of time, we'll take it on a case-by-case basis, but if if we're blindsided by the tabloids while you're on the show, you're going home.)however, I agree wholeheartedly -- the producers need to step up and acknowledge this issue and comment. I also think it's a shame that there's that insane rule about having an even amount of women and men. This is something that has bugged me since the first season of AI and I wondered what was going to happen when/if we were ever faced with a situation like we have this year. Such a shame that a show seeking talent sends home the talent they seek and keeps the "I Wanna Be On TV But I Can't Sing" contestants.

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Pete — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:32:26 GMT

When you wrote this entry you overlooked on factor Ms. Davis consented to taking professional photos intended for pornographic purposes and was paid for it. Ms. Barba did not give permission or accept payment for her photos they were candid pictures taken by friends and the more graphic ones are fakes. The people at AI are not stupid, maybe you and some of the audience are not so bright. They now the past contestants they are aware of Ms Davis. And they know they are clearly within their legal rights this isn't an issue at all, it's stupidity.

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Corey H, Orlando FL — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:20:47 GMT

The fact that the same standard isnt being used is what people should be focusing on. Its funny how the "yeah but" defense is always used instead of simply admitting that if not racist its at least a double standard influenced by race. I mean honestly someone previously asked the question, if Frenchies pictures were exposed under the same curcumstances would you be so quick to defend her with the handy "yeah but" arguement. Some of you cant even entertain the thought let alone say it lol. Racial topics have a funny way of turning otherwise intelligent people into robots with preprogramed responses. Often abandoning intellect while grasping to justify the unjustifiable. Its actually funny to watch. " OK she's got his ___ in her mouth yeah but.....umm uhhh Frenchie got paid" lol. You guys dont see the humor in that? Free you mind people!!!!!

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Dan, Raleigh NC — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:32:59 GMT

I have just one question, would Frenchie be on broadway today if she hadn't been on idol at all? The exposure she got, good and bad, lead her to be looked at by talent scouts somewhere. She is singing professionally today probably because of the time she spent on AI, so instead of suing them she should be saying it got me my shot.

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Melissa, Baltimore MD — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:22:54 GMT

If contestants are disclosing past run-ins with the law (or other unsavory behavior...) there might be an issue of confidentiality for Fox if the producers were to disclose the particulars of how the decisions were made. See what I'm saying? There may be more differences between Frenchie and Antonella's situations than we are actually privy to, believe it or not. You need someone to sneak in and get a copy of whatever contract Idol hopefuls sign and see what it actually says! Not saying it's not questionable, just that there may be information that is not shared with the morning news per the contracts that Idols are given by the show.

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Washingtonian Diva, D.C. — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:36:57 GMT

Barba will make it big regardless of all the comments or Idol or Davis! She has exposure since being on the show. All you insecure jealous people need to grow up. I'm not crazy abut her singing, but she could get lessons to improve. Hey, Hef, give her a call!

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Mike Burns, Bloomington, IN — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:11:40 GMT

Has anyone considered the possibility that sweet little Antonella planned with her friends to release the pictures if she got through? Hey, if not wearing panties gets your name in the papers these days *and* makes you famous, fame being the most important thing, why not spike the punch a little? If the pictures weren't there, she'd have been done weeks ago. Makes sense to me.

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Mary, Daytona Beach, Fl — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:25:20 GMT

Antonella may not have been paid upfront for her pictures but they were very obviously taken with the intent of a modeling career. I don't know anyone who accidentally strips to the panties and a wet t-shirt in the WWII memorial fountain. The pictures were posed and not candid shots of friends posing. The same standards should hold true, that they held Frenchie to.

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John, Leesburg,Virginia — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:33:44 GMT

Here we go again. People always trying to bring race into something. One woman was paid to have the photos taken, the other wasn't. There is no controversy here, other than some people always want to be victims. Being 1/2 Middle Eastern and having seen my share of racism in my life, I get sick of hearing these people whine. Frenchy deserved to be booted. Antonella does not because the pictures weren't paid for.

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Lokey, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:02:56 GMT

I have read these comments here. Some of you seem to be missing the big picture. Thats look at it in a couple of ways. It's a contest? Wrong this is a reality tv show. Here's the proof on that. If you cut one girl who can sing for photos of nudity. Then cut the one who can't sing. But wait.. Mrs. Davis got paid. Yup she did.. However she used that money to get a Education at Howard. So should we down her for doing what she had to do to make something of herself? I think not. Antonella pics was brought up by a friend. ( What kind of friend is that? ) Regardless of the fact the girl can't sing. Now she's not getting money for the pics; However she's getting fame from it. Which in turn could bring about some money. You know some movie producer is checking her out and waiting to use her in a move with nudity. Now thats look at it as if was just a singing contest. If that was true.. The contest would be open to all comers. No age no races none of that would matter.. IF you can sing your in. That would make it fair and even.. You would be judge on your talents not whether you been trouble in your past. Or if what ever problems you had in the past would determine whether you stayed on the show. So which do u agree with? Is AI a contest where people are judge on their talents? Or Is it a Reality show? Where the ratings are more important then a person who can't really sing but cause she's half clothed and looks good can stay on the show..

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Miss Tee, Columbia, MD — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:00:22 GMT

Yes she deserves money, she was embarrassed and humiliated. American Idol is racist and weightest and this latest garbage proves it. WE ARE NOT STUPID, this is racist!!

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

LRJ, Miami, FL — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:11:50 GMT

It all boils down to one thing: marketability. Remember, this is a REALITY show, not a TALENT show. If it was truly about talent, then why did they show the first couple of shows of people without any obvious talent (and thus, no chance of going to Hollywood) getting through to audition for Simon, Paula and Randy? The way I see it is that Antonella is marketable (pretty face, nice body) despite the lack of talent while Frenchie (cute face, thick body) is not despite her superior singing ability. Is it fair? No. But in Hollywood, it isn't about what's fair. It's about what looks good on camera. Whether or not Antonella intended the photos to be released, two things were obvious: they weren't all just candid photos (some were blatant poses, like a model shoot) and they've put her name on the map. Who knows how many people are watching AI to take a glimpse at the girl on the photos, right? History has shown us that in Hollywood, lack of talent is ignored as long as you look good and have some scandal chasing you around. Don't believe me? Two words: Paris Hilton. I bet any amount of money that Antonella doesn't make it into the top ten, but before the year's out, she'll be on the cover of a magazine (FHM, Maxim, or Playboy). As for Frenchie, she's got Broadway and a bright future ahead for her. Did she get the wrong end of the deal? Yes, but she also got the last laugh. Lastly, like many of you, I agree that the girls are dominating this year and it's a shame that some of them won't make it because they have to have six guys and six girls. But remember the key words here: it's REALITY TV.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Laura, Memphis, TN — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:16:10 GMT

Where is the proof that Barba did not release these pics herself? I have a feeling we'll see how little Antonella minds having totally nude photos published shortly after she's booted from the show. There's no question of a double standard based on appearance. Antonella should have been kicked off, but since Fox did not they should offer an explanation. Contestants involved in violent crimes should be booted without exception.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

no name — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:57:10 GMT

Everyone keeps saying Frenchie shouldhave been kicked off because she was paid and did it knowingly. Since when is accepting a paid, not from an illegal profession, worse than a drug arrest or physical brutality against someone? Last I knew it was illegal to be naked in public, which Barba clearly was. Other contestants who broke the law were let go, Frenchie broke no laws. She is absolutely discriminated against. The same men who buy the 'porn' Frenchie was kicked off for are the ones now voting for Barba. Get over it men. This isn't a beauty pageant. Barba should have been off the show overnight.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Larry Flynt, Hustleville, CA — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:14:52 GMT

Only bad thing; the pics of Antonella was racy enough!!!

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Patty, Saint Louis, MO — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:30:17 GMT

I don't think the difference between Frenchie and Antonella is color. I think it's weight, and it's totally unfair. I think Frenchie has all the right in this world to complain. I also don't think it's fair to compare the other former American Idol finalists' past with Antonella's pictures. All the things these people did is wrong and doesn't show our kids that they are good role models. The good role models are people with no dark past whatsoever. I just think Antonella should be kicked off because her singing sucks. And yes, life is very very unfair!

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Curious... — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:47:35 GMT

I wonder what the difference is between being paid to have pictures taken of you and paying someone to take pictures of you? Hmmm..

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Carole MacKay, Sterling Heights, Michigan — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:10:35 GMT

Has anyone here read the idol boards? I have, and I think anyone who has would agree that the majority of Barba's supporters are teen or pre-teen girls. They've kept on the show to be their personal "project". I think this is sad. Even if posing for the pictures was just stupid, then she shouldn't be on the show for just that reason. Let's put "stupidity" as one of the reasons you shouldn't be allowed to compete. But, with that aside, they're voting and voting for this girl in spite of the fact that she doesn't have a fraction of the talent exhibited by so many of the other contestants. These kids are all so enamored with her looks and her sexuality, that this and this alone is the only reason she's making it through. Judging by the hundreds and hundreds of times each of these kids say they vote each night, I don't expect to see her gone anytime soon, and I find that very sad. There just has to be a better voting system. It wouldn't help to make people vote for the worst, because with the help of the internet, they'd band together and just pick one person, and concentrate their voting powers on getting that person eliminated. I think they should limit the amount of votes, but even that isn't foolproof. I wish I had a better idea!

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

margie - longtime idol fan — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:59:51 GMT

Let's end this discussion with a simple fact: Antonella CAN'T SING and should be vote off the show ASAP!!!!!!!!!

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Laidback Mom, North Carolina — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:13:39 GMT

I'm not a pre-teen girl. Actually, I'm a 42-year old mother of 6 with a grown daughter. I think Antonella has a beautiful voice. I think Frenchie has a beautiful voice. I think Antonella is definitely one of the best 6 female voices left in the competition. I also believe that the "controversy" has over-shadowed Antonella's singing.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

dee, Virginia Beach, VA — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:02:39 GMT

Could be racism, but honestly as an African American woman, I doubt it. I'm more inclined to believe weightism, but I'm not even a 100 percent sure about that, as their are men who prefer Frenchie's body type. Really, I just think it's the Fox ratings machine! Barba's "controversy" is good for pulling in viewers whether you love her or hate her. We all know the girl can't sing, including Barba herself, which leads me to the conclusion that she had something to do with leaking the pictures herself. She knew it would be just a matter of time before her lack of vocal talent became obvious and she had to have a back up plan to extend her 15 minutes of fame. Ergo, the "leaked" pictures! I ain't mad ya girl

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

katie clements — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:46:07 GMT

This has probably been said, but there is a huge difference between Season 1 and Season 6. Don't you think they may have been a little worried about what the audience could handle regarding potential scandal on Season One? Don't you think we've all aged by Season 6? Everything has become more relaxed in the past six years. Are we saying we personally are all going to only go by the same behaviors we did six years ago? And if we don't we need to *pay* someone? Six years *blue jeans* were not that *in* fashion wise, and so they weren't accepted in nicer restaurants as chic casual. Now, a restaurant would cut off it's throat to say *no jeans*. Times change, people change. First year television shows *change*. Give me a break, Frenchie. It was the first year. I mean really. It's not racism, it's just the desire to desire in a cut-throat industry and fickle viewing audience.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Rodric Green, Mckinney Texas — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:37:38 GMT

Both individuals should have been able to stay. This is a show for talent and I believe both individuals are talented. Frenchie being the most talented. I wonder was there a probe for the judges.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Miguel Andrade, Ithaca, New York — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:55:38 GMT

AI has a responsability in promoting good image, they always talk about how many viewers saw last AI and so on. They droped the ball on this one, maybe they panic, thought Barba would no last, but one think I know is that AI got me to watch each episode from the surfing of the pictures to Barba's cut last nite. On every episode in between I was thinking what is she still doing in the show?, why are people still voting her through? and why is AI allowing this?. And there it is, RAITINGS, these guys know what they are doing, that is why they get paid the big bucks. Frenchie was discriminated, Barba exploited and the viewers paid the bill. Have a nice day.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Juicy Lucy, Reseda, Ca — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:05:29 GMT

What can I say? Judging from the majority of messages, I would like to say to you all "Get a real life" and stop living and hiding behind stupid talent shows. The majority of you would benefit from taking English lessons if you really want to write. I bet more than half of you are living from paycheck to paycheck and live in filty conditions. So get off your butt and improve your own lives instead of dreaming. And for all you wannbe mothers......get off your ass and go to the store. Today is the day they give babies away with a half a pound of tea. !!

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

B Vas, Colorado Springs, Co — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:30:49 GMT

Kicking a person off a show because they were paid for the pic is wrong. everyone has done something in there lives that there not proud of to make money when they need it. We may or may not have ever been in there shoes but to judge them on if they were paid to have pic taken or if its just a friend doing it is wrong. And Drug use well thats just hard to say if its wrong or right.. we can't just say how everyone should live there lives and what they should never do. Sometimes there is never a right or wrong way and the answer is never clear..The only thing I think would be wrong is beating your wife/girlfreind I don't approve of that. But I can't judge them on if there wrong or right because I don't no what happened...If they had more than one time that they beat there wife/ girlfriend than they shouldn't go. But we all make bad decisions and we have to live with them.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Mary M., Cumberland, R. I. — Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:47:26 GMT

Hi, how can we claim that AI is a racist show? Two of the American Idol champs are black, Reuban, and Fantasia. We all make mistakes in our lives, and it maybe a good idea for AI. to have a set of rules and standards of what is it what is not acceptable prior behavior. Just a suggestion.

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

MyTwoCents — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:08:19 GMT

What Frenchie did, whatever you think of it, was perfectly legal and her own business. No law was broken and no one got hurt. Not true for some of those who got to stay on the show (Bice, Savol). That's a double-standard and a bad one. How is getting naked worse than beating up your wife?

'Idol' making up rules as it goes along

Kell A.,Orlando,Fl — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:41:28 GMT

The difference between Antonella and Frenchie is one thing;Race.people can use all the other variables all they want,ex.paid or not,porn or personal and any other excuse that makes a vast majority of society feel better.The bottomline is not only did Antonella not get voted off but Simon also had the nerve to symphatized with Ms.Barba for the media scrutinize saying she handled herself real well during this ordeal and he didn't think anyone deserved to go through what she went through.Where was this when Frenchie was getting the boot?